Re: "new to Java" question...

Joe,

Thanks for the explanation...since I'm new to Java programming I'd imagine 
my first program is gonna look a little less like Java and more like 
C...since I don't really understand the whole OO picture yet...

(hence, most of my variables are global and all methods are in one class)

Shane Cessna  
iSeries Programmer
iSeries WAS Administrator
North American Lighting, Inc.
(618) 662-4483 x2776
shane_cessna@xxxxxxx 



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    Hi Shane,

> is it common, then, to have a crapload of class variables?...

    The basis of object oriented programming is to create appropriate 
models
of the problem domain, resulting in something called an Abstract Data 
Type.
An ADT has both state and behavior.  In Java, this is a class, which is 
more
or less a blueprint for creating objects, which are particular instances 
of
the class, each with their own data.

    State data that can't be easily or efficiently calculated on the fly
should be kept as instance variables.  Whether of not this entails a
"crapload" is entirely dependent on the needs of the ADT.  Even with
instance variables, for reasons to do with encapsulation, you probably 
want
to have methods to control access and modification of data by external
objects.

    True method variables, as Chris mentioned, do not exist outside the
method.

    Using all statics is a practice that limits your code and usually ends
up biting you later on.  This does not necessarily relate to you, but I
often see it in what is essentially RPG ( C, COBOL, pick your non-OOPS
language ) written in Java syntax.

    The same thing happened in C++, where programmers called themselves 
C++
programmers because they had a C++ compiler.  Like most things, that's not
necessarily bad, so long as the programmer understands what she is doing.
Most of the time, however, it's a result of "gotta write the code", and 
the
major benefits of OO and the bang for the buck are never seen.

    If you want to investigate further, there are plenty of books and
articles about OO concepts.  Here's a brief online introduction:

"Object-Oriented Programming Concepts"

http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/java/concepts/index.html


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> Mark,
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> Thanks for the response...I just was curious if it could be done...is it
> common, then, to have a crapload of class variables?...
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> Shane Cessna
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> North American Lighting, Inc.
> (618) 662-4483 x2776
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> Isn't that the idea behind encapsulation? So method variables cannot be
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> Is there an easier way to access method variables in another method 
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> than passing them on the call?  here's an example:
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> public static void main(String args[]) {
>   DB2400 nal820 = new DB2400("nal820");
>   getData(nal820);
>   nal820.disconnect();
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> public static void getData(DB2400 nal820) {
>   //process data
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> could I do something in the getData method to access my "nal820" 
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> without passing it?  I'm sure it's something really easy and basic, but
> like the subject says, it's a "new to Java" type of question...Thanks...
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> Shane Cessna
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