RE: 3rd party stuff / was Java-based forums -- JAVA400-L

There are free hosting services out there that you can make use of and
there are also paid servers like netshare400 that you can get onto for a
fair fee.

Check out this page for references:
http://www.as400pro.com/resourcesiSTimeShar.htm

I think the real problem is the mindset of RPG/Cobol programmers vs.
most other programming languages programmers.  This isn't a slam on RPG
developers, but it is truth that they are very slow to adopt anything
new (in my experience) - just look at how many have adopted all the
things in V5R1!!.  They don't go home and twiddle on their computer
every night like most Java, PHP, .NET developers will.  Sure there is a
segment that puts out some pretty cool free RPG code, but guess what?  I
can guarantee you that they have most likely many programming languages
under their belt and RPG was just another requirement of their business
that they picked up along the way.

Most RPG programmers are full of excuses for not submitting to the
community, IMO.  Some just choose to be consumers and that is fine also,
but when I hear that they don't do it because they don't have access to
an iSeries during off hours I know that they aren't really serious about
open source because everything you need to do open source RPG is out
there and it is free - you just need to visit your local google.com;-)

Please no flames for my previous statement.  I don't think anyone on the
midrange lists are idle RPG programmers because they are obviously
interested in learning and asking questions, I am just saying that the
percentage of willing RPG pgmrs vs. most other languages varies greatly.

My .02
Aaron Bartell 



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 7:48 AM
To: Java Programming on and around the iSeries / AS400
Subject: Re: 3rd party stuff / was Java-based forums

One of the main stumbling blocks to open source / freeware third party
software for AS400 RPG/COBOL,

is that most of us do not have access to AS400 hardware / software
outside of working hours.

With Java / C/ C++/ .NET, development can be done quite easily on a home
PC.

cheers
Colin.W
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Logemann" <spam1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Java Programming on and around the iSeries / AS400"
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Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: 3rd party stuff / was Java-based forums


> Bruce Jin wrote:
>
> > Which of these offers more free/open source third party
library/products?
> >
> >
> >
> >   1.. COBOL
> >   2.. RPG
> >   3.. C/C++
> >   4.. JAVA
> >   5.. .NET
> >   6.. .
> >
> >
>
> Most software products are built with C/C++ of course, but IMO the
> library base in java is bigger. DOTNET is too new to be competitive in
> any area and RPG cant compete because it has not so much developers
and
> the area of RPG usage is mainly business programming, there you dont
> have too many patterns which re-occur every day. Cobol is in the same
> situation i guess. Another fact that speaks for java in the library
> space is that you can use java nearly everywhere, so you have libs for
> creating web applications, mobile applications, GUI applications all
> this XML stuff, you really need more libs than with most other
languages
> out there, with a very strict focus on the devevelopment area. Take
PHP,
> a great language, but very focused to web development. You dont need
> libraries for Widgets or 3d capabilities.
>
> Marc Logemann
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