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I haven't kept that close to the newest info on Journal and Commit stuff but given the amount of interest in this subject I asked my former coworker his perspective if it can help anyone. Thanks, Paul Holm Business: 760-432-0600 Home: 760-432-6550 Cell: 760-415-8830 PlanetJ - Makers of WOW (AKA... WebSphere on Steroids) -----Original Message----- From: Randy Johnson [mailto:randyj@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 4:22 PM To: Kent Milligan Cc: Adam T Stallman; KEVIN GETTING; Larry Youngren; pholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Mark Anderson Subject: Re: Yo.... Is Journaling/Commitment Control alive and well? Most of my initial thoughts are similar to Kent's. If the primary concern is storage required for journaling, check out the MNGRCV, DLTRCV and MINENTDTA parms of the CRTJRN and CHGJRN commands. If it's performance, there are scenarios where performance is enhanced by using commitment control because database operations do not need to be forced to disk until the transaction commits. Using busy flags, etc. instead of the industry standard SQL isolation levels leaves you with a non-portable, proprietary application. The various isolation levels provide a simple solution for the complexity involved with implementing different levels of concurrency. I don't have data on percentage of customers that use commitment control, but I believe it has risen substantially over the years. Copying Mark A in case he has an idea. Most applications running on a non-AS/400 client use it since there is no such thing as COMMIT(*NONE) on non-ISeries platforms (we support *NONE via our ODBC driver, but it is a foreign concept to programmers on other platforms). And obviously there are cases (like banks, casinos, etc.) where it would be foolish to use any algorithm to simulate commitment control that does not absolutely guarantee the integrity of the transactions in case of a system failure, no matter how remote the chance. Randy Johnson ISeries UDB Commitment Control, IBM Rochester MN Office: 015-3/D116 Phone: (507) 253 You might find some good info in the Journal Performance Redbook ( http://publib-b.boulder.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/RedbookAbstracts/sg246286.html?Open )
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