Re: framework question

[Dieter Bender <dieter.bender@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Montag, 5. Juli 2004 23:33, Jon Paris wrote:
>  >> This may well be true, but do you have any statistics to substantiate
>
> the statement? For if it is true, it is truly scary: do you really mean
> that most of the iSeries shops do not use Commitment Control?
>
> I'm not Joe, but I do often ask conference attendees how many of them are
> using commitment control.  In a room of 100 people about 5 or 6 would
> normally say they use it.  On the rare occasion when about 15 people say
> they are using it I normally find that several of them are from the same
> shop.

And what do you answer? stay with it? I'm asking this question too, with 
comparable results, but my answer is: change ist, use the technics the 
database provides.

>
> On those occasions when I have asked about journaling, the response level
> is higher - but still typically below the 25% mark.

Same experience as yours and my answer is again: use the technics the database 
provides. I've spent hours and hole days and nights in investigations what 
parts of a database are coruupted after a chnage of a program that better 
would not have been done. writing books and postings, talking about how 
clever one person is and the silly others is one thing and beeing responsable 
for the corrupted data of applications without commitment controll and 
without journaling another. I've done this job for about 10 years, before I 
began writing articles and teaching and speaking to conference attendees.

>
> Scientific?  No.  But a fairly representative sample gained over a number
> of years.
>
> Scary?  Yes - "but it is such a reliable system"
>
> Lately I find a lot of people using triggers to do what I would consider a
> journaling function.

So what, do you really recommend this aproach, I can't believe that you would.

Dieter Bender

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