Re: framework question -- JAVA400-L

Franco,

in my experience of Java development vs RPG, when you compare like with
like,
I have not found Java any faster to develop in.

The key advantage with java is the extensive APIs available, that mean you
dont always have to roll your own functionality for thing like FTP, HTTP,
email processing, XML parsing etc.

But these are all accessible from RPG now anyway.

cheers
colin.W

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Franco Biaggi" <fbiaggi@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Java Programming on and around the iSeries / AS400"
<java400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: framework question


> Joe,
>
> I have more than 30 year experience on midrange programming (RPG),
> and more than 10 years in OOP.
>
> do not forget that RPG is a REPORT GENERATOR PROGRAM, not a language.
> OO is another world that cannot be compared...
>
> Simply OO programming thake 10% of the time compared to RPG, very easy
> on maintenance etc.
>
> Sorry for my bad english.
>
> Joe Pluta wrote:
>
> >>this is a quite questionable statement. I dont want to miss
> >>specialisation of real world objects by the use of inheritance.
> >>I can easily demonstrate 100 places where this makes sense, its starts
> >>in the range of persistence...
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Please demonstrate a few.  And persistence is not an application
> >requirement, it's an architectural issue.  Name places in business
> >applications where inheritance works better than composition.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>But there are many oppinions about that. Think of one fact, no modern
> >>language comes without inheritance.
> >>The last 5-6 languages created the last years in fact are all
> >>
> >>
> >completely
> >
> >
> >>OO based. (Python, C#, Ruby, Java,...)
> >>
> >>
> >
> >None of those languages is any good for business logic, though.
> >
> >Also, your statement depends on what you consider a language.  ILE RPG
> >is all but a completely new language, and it does not have inheritance.
> >
> >And in any case, the point is not whether inheritance is good or bad,
> >but whether it is appropriate for business programming.  My position is
> >that it is not, and that except for the most trivial applications I can
> >write business logic much more quickly and flexibly in RPG than any
> >other language.
> >
> >Joe
> >
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