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> mark lazarus wrote:
> You should be THANKING IBM, not chastising them

I should?   OK.    Thanks for setting me straight on this. It fits in well
with the rest of the "dumbing down of America".    :-)

We have two "older" programmers, probably three, here, who, if the company
were to suddenly decide to dump RPG and go to Java or Visual Basic or .Net,
would be unemployable.  They don't understand, or for that matter, even care
to learn the complexities of another, any other, language.

Being the best RPG programmer at your shop, heck, in your state!, in today's
world, is, in my opinion, equivalent to being the best blacksmith in New
York city. Sure it's a great skill to have, but what are you going to do
when all the horses are gone?


Shannon O'Donnell


----- Original Message -----
From: <mlazarus@xxxxxxxx>
To: <java400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: Calling Java from RPG - CLASSPATH Problem?


> Shannon,
>
> >And I also feel, again, that IBM didn't do AS/400 programmers any favor
by
> hiding the complexity of the nitty gritty of programming behind so much in
> RPG.  For example,  a  CHAIN in RPG is easy.   Setting up an input stream,
> reading bytes of data from a file, etc...piece by piece, the way you have
to
> do it in other languages such as Java, is so much more complex by
> comparison. AS/400 programmers have not had to deal with that complexity,
> they simply execute a CHAIN.  And because of that, when they want to move
> to/try a new language, there's a tremendous learning curve.  It would have
> been easier to learn it all from the beginning.
>
>  You should be THANKING IBM, not chastising them.  Just because other
> languages try to be so general purpose that they make it difficult to do
> everyday business functions doesn't mean that the language that was
> designed for business processing is bad!!
>
>  It's interesting that even the most staunch OO advocates seem to be
> against the encapsulation given by the RPG opcodes, yet have no problem
> with the concept of processing I/O in bytestream format...
>
>  -mark
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