Re: WebSphere on NT vs. AS/400

["Frances Stewart" <francess@xxxxxxxxxx>]

The iSeries supports 2 "full" versions of WebSphere - most recently that
would be WAS Advanced Edtion V4.0 and WAS Advanced Single Server Edition
V4.0.  I would suspect that iSeries would be willing to support Enterprise
Edition (or most of it) when there are enough iSeries customers who need it
and are willing to pay they price for it to make it feasable to produce it.
Currently that set of customers does not exist.

As far as wanting to be able to developt Web applications using standards,
WAS V4.0 is fully J2EE 1.2 compliant on iSeries as it is on the other
platforms.

On the lighter side, I think it is only fitting that iSeries marketers on
road shows ask "what is enterprise edition", when I have heard that some
non-iSeries marketers have been known to ask "what is AS/400".

And lastly, I will try not to respond to anymore notes on this thread as I
have found it is generally a losing proposition, and being a developer I am
probably not the correct person to jump into the fray.

Frances Stewart




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Am Mittwoch, 15. Mai 2002 21:28 schrieben Sie:
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Mark, and Joe and other

> >In my opinion WebSphere is not a strategical product on OS/400

>That is an absolutely ludicrous statement.  I think there is no product
>that is more "strategic" for IBM and the iSeries than WebSphere.

and there was no product, that was more strategic than Office Vision and
Firewall
WebSphere is  a strategic product for IBM, but the as400 is not the
strategic
platform for websphere and that's not making me happy.


>> On AS/400 the CORBA components are missing, for example.

>Post some specifics of things you can do on other platforms that you
>cannot do on the iSeries.

from the IBM Websphere specification sheets:

              Message beans and JMS listener
              Business rules support
              Internationalization service
              Shared work area support
              Bidirectional CORBA connectivity
              C++ CORBA SDK to leverage C++ code
              ActiveX bridge to reuse Microsoft assets
              Business process beans technology preview
              High-speed transaction processing support
              An industry-leading messaging solution with MQSeries software

I mentioned CORBA, because it is the standard for using components cross
system; you can do this on as400, but you have to use the toolbox
workarounds
and you can't use the standards. And this doesn't make me happy too.

>Then someone can respond to you.

and this person would have to clarify why ibm takes a lot of money for the
enterprise edition, containing features people don't need.

> If you are
>really interested in these issues (I do not think you are),

I'm interested in developing web applications with standards, I'm not
interested in work arounds and I'm interested in strategic solutions and it
doesn't make me happy seeing what ibm is doing with as400.

>then why don't
>you post the questions on IBM's WebSphere for OS/400 newsgroup?

The only question I have is: when will the as400 support the full version
of
Websphere ???
BTW, asking this questions on as400 road shows the marketiers answered
'what
is the enterprise edition?

>Mark

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