Re: WebFacing: Is this really Heaven? NO, it's hell!!!!

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Hi, again...

Had to stick with my first impression!  It looks very nice, but again,
unusable in practice !

despite
1) IBM is saying WebFacing can be used to go on the Internet very fast
with none or minor codechanges
2) IBM-ers telling us it is able to have responsetimes of 1second max.
3) Our system should have enough CPW (processor = 420 - interactive
feature = 120)
4) IBM's helpdesk efforts to help us
5) Applying ptf's, cumpacks, servicepacks
6) loading SP5
7) neverending patience of myself (though it's running at the end after 2
months)

I feel bad to admitt that we cannot use WebFacing for WebAccess.  Yes,
it's running on 'one' PC's in our Intranet Environment (response 3seconds
max) but I thought it was written to go 'online on the Internet' very fast
without changing any code????
(btw, other PC's (Intel Celeron800) give response of 10secs max.)
- We still have response between 20 to 25 seconds for each page to load...
- We still get zStyles - errors...
- We still don't know where the 'sign' command/object comes from, it gives
an error in the joblogs of the WF-sessions after completing...
- We even cannot export projects anymore!
After applying SP5, we cannot export projects anymore.  Folders are
generated, filenames are found but all with a length of zero bytes...
When we copy the files manually from the 'PC drive' to WebSphere it works
normally...

I'm pretty sure we could have created some webapp's using Frontpage /
Visual Café in stead of trying to use WebFacing...  Then we could drink on
some success in stead of going drunk because of the bad experiences...

Patrick Goovaerts
ICT/Clipper Support nv
http://www.conti7.be

"Patrick Goovaerts" <pgoovaerts@pandora.be> schreef in bericht 
news:a2788g$110i$1@news.boulder.ibm.com...
> Hi, All web- and javaguru's.
>
> My first impression of WebFacing (Brussels, may/june 2001) was:
>
> "Looks good, but first see this in action. Have seen some promissing
> projects before..."
>
> So, I went on learning WebDevelopment with all around it (WAS, HTML,
VAJAVA,
> STUDIO, JSP's, Servlets) which, for the obvious reasons, took a long
time.
> Not all companies can afford to have 1 specialist for each of the parts
of
> web-development. Or am I wrong here? We managed to created some simple
> Client-Server apps, using Swing. Also a simple web-application (view of
> records from AS400 using DPC) and a more intensive one which let a user
> create, delete, update, view, copy,... records straight into our AS400
using
> JDBC and SQL. Although the latter is still in test and has to be
fine-tuned.
> And now, our 2002 present from our ITC-manager arrived: V5R1M0 for the
AS400
> and an updated WDT400 V5.1 with WebFacing.
>
> After installing the new releases, I could see this 'Masterpiece' in
action.
> Yes, 'Masterpiece', I have no other words for 'WebFacing'! I took a
running
> application which consist of 5 modules (about 10 panels) and loaded it
in
> WebFacing. Convertion only show 2 serious problems (indicators in dspf
on 1
> line) and placed the app in IBM WebSphere 3.5.2
>
> Result: Complete web-application created in 15 minutes! (after cutting
of
> the time to overcome firsttime-usage problems).
>
> With a basic knowledge of WebApplication Development one could create
> WebApplications, based on running business-applications without changing
> business code! Yes! It's really true!
>
> What are the Pitfall's?
> Are there any?
> Is there a dark side?
> Am I wrong here?
> Maybe I'm a little too over-excited, because of the stress of learning
and
> solving webdevelopment problems last year?
> I want too here it from you guy's...
>
> Patrick Goovaerts