RE: VAJAVA vs CODE/400 -- JAVA400-L

You can ftp the repository file to the as/400 and then save it as part of
the nightly backup.



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From: owner-java400-l@midrange.com [mailto:owner-java400-l@midrange.com]On
Behalf Of Shawn Church
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 8:42 PM
To: JAVA400-L@midrange.com
Subject: RE: VAJAVA vs CODE/400

I am not necessarily "required" to work with an outside version control
system, but out of habit and common practice that comes natural.  Do you
ever export your code for purposes of backup, etc.?  I seems a little spooky
to trust all my code to the VAJ repository, but maybe that's just me.

I have been puzzled as to the poor performance of VAJ I have experienced,
which is why I have tried it on several different occasions in different
environments, and hence is reproducable.  I can't quickly blame NT, since
nothing else has been problematic, but you also say you haven't had these
types of problems in "quite some time", implying you may have had these
problems at some time in the past?  If everyone else which is using VAJ
successfully is also running 2000, then NT may very well be the issue.
Otherwise, maybe I should try VAJ 3.5 sp2.  I can't/don't want to yet go to
2000, because of the lack of compatibility with a few applications which
don't yet support 2000 (ie - Iris).  My reference to "rare" was not to
application crashes in general, but to the point of requiring a system
reboot since the processes were frozen to an extent I could not end them
individually.

My development is a mix of OS/400, NT, and Linux, but my primary concern
(over cost) is the viability of the product in general.  Since it sounds
like my experiences were unique, I should probably try it again.

If you could address the question about the Java code safety, I would
appreciate knowing "best practices" for this situation.

Thanks,
Shawn

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-java400-l@midrange.com
[mailto:owner-java400-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Joe Pluta
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 5:13 PM
To: JAVA400-L@midrange.com
Subject: RE: VAJAVA vs CODE/400


Shawn, VAJ doesn't work and play well with outside version control systems.
This is because it is not a source-based IDE.  In fact, a large percentage
of my classes have never been rendered as a .java file, except for licensing
purposes.  If you are required to work with an outside version control
system, VAJ may not be the tool for you.

Your other problems with VAJ may not have been VAJ, since many of us aren't
seeing them.  I don't know when "the last time" was that you tried to
install, but I haven't had any problem such as the one you are reporting in
quite some time.  If you have a problem that is actually reproducable rather
than anecdotal, please share it.  I can attest to using VAJ on a daily basis
for well over a year and not seeing any of the problems you relate.  This
may be because I use Windows 2000, which is much more stable (IMHO) than
Windows NT.  Unlike you, I wouldn't characterize NT crashes as "rare", but
Windows 2000 crashes are indeed fairly rare occurences these days.

VAJ crashes are non-occurences.

VAJ is also free as part of the OS/400 development tools these days, so if
you are developing software for the AS/400, VAJ pricing should not be an
issue.

Joe

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