RE: VAJAVA vs CODE/400 -- JAVA400-L

Mark, what are you running VAJ on?  I've been using VAJ for nearly three
years, and it's locked up twice on me in that time.  Since I've started
running under Windows/2000, VAJ hasn't locked up at all.  I have no problem
with the debugger, except when debugging constructors.

A NoClassDefFound error is always because you didn't set the classpath on
the properties tab.  You simply hit Compute Now and it will set the
classpath correctly.  Then you have to make sure to hit OK to save the
changes.  Until you do that, the application will fail with a
NoClassDefFound.  When I teach VAJ, this is the first thing I teach because
it is the most non-intuitive thing about the package.  All my students know
that NoClassDefFound=Compute Now.

If you like VB, fine, but personally I prefer the VAJ environment.  I prefer
a repository-based editor for a number of reasons, most of which have to do
with object-oriented development concepts.  VAJ is excellent for developing
good, solid OO hierarchies.

I'm sorry you haven't been happy with VAJ.  If I can help in any way, let me
know.  I'm running out right now for a few hours, but feel free to drop a
line here or at my primary email address (joepluta@plutabrothers.com) and
I'll help if I can.

Joe


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-java400-l@midrange.com
> [mailto:owner-java400-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of
> MWalter@hanoverwire.com
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 7:54 AM
> To: JAVA400-L@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: VAJAVA vs CODE/400
>
>
>
> THAT'S IT. I'VE HAD IT. I've tried all weekend to make VAJAVA work for me.
> It locks up, the debugger doesn't work when I want it to, and after a
> problem, I can't save my source.
>
> The only reason I started using it (VAJAVA) is to have a debugger that
> works, since the debugger shipped with WDT/400 doesn't support the JDK
> shipped with WDT/400. Now that makes allot of sense.
>
> IBM promotes Java as the best thing since sliced bread. They tool
> the death
> bell of native development paradigms. They tell developers that
> they should
> learn the "new" technologies and I, for one, embrace learning new things.
> I've finally, in the last month, was able to put aside the some time
> explicitly for learning Java. The language itself doesn't seem that
> difficult and the learning curve is not as steep as I had heard. But the
> tools provided by IBM, in my opinion are atrocious.
>
> People on these lists spend allot of time and energy slamming MS. I, for
> one, feel that anyone developing an IDE for any environment should look at
> VB. MS got it right with that one.
>
> OK, I'm done with my Monday morning rant.
>
> Mark

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