WCS 5.1 Java Websphere E-commerce solution from IBM -- JAVA400-L

Is there anyone using WCS 5.1.  Did anyone tried to customized it as per
user needs.  Did anyone tried to integrate it with Legacy Application.  Did
anyone tried to implement it for B2B or B2C.

Please help us in evaluating this product.  We have investigated it for two
months.  It seems like in order to integreate it with our ERP software we
have to override almost all the features of WCS5.1.  Does it make sense to
use it in this case?

Thanks for your Help and input.



-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Rehm [mailto:javadisciple@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 10:32 AM
To: JAVA400-L@midrange.com
Subject: Re: VAJAVA vs CODE/400


Hi Mark,
   I can sure empathize with you. I guess I've had many weekends with 
similar frustrations.

   I use VA Java a little bit. I've used Forte, but I haven't used 
Borland's product. Odd, really, since I like them as a company and have 
heard so many good things about it.
   But VAJ is a really good product. I think that what you have to get 
used to in learning to program Java using VAJ is that you will have 
three areas to learn. Java syntax (easy), Java class libraries (easy but 
tedious), and VisualAge (medium to complex). That is considering that 
you start with an understanding of OOP and components (which are 
JavaBeans in this environment).
   I don't really remember ever having the debugger not work, so I'm not 
sure what to say about that one. I know that I have experienced lockup 
problems and I think I've found the cause of that (if you were getting 
the "Java program not responding" when using the visual editor).
   I'm not interested in talking you into using VA Java if you really 
don't want to play with it, but I would like to help if you cool off and 
want to get rolling with it again.
   There are some resources you might find useful, like IBM's newsserver 
groups, hang on...
news.software.ibm.com
   There are several news groups discussing the various aspects of 
Visual Age for java. These are really, really busy news groups with lots 
of excellent professionals helping each other out. Plus, IBM monitors 
the groups. 
   There is also a book, Effective VisualAge for Java, that I recommend. 
I'm just a reader of it, not affiliated.
   Now, I know that Sun has many Java discussion forums in their 
developer's exchange area on their web site and that can be very useful, 
but I personally don't like the way web based message boards operate. I 
like being able to set up my own editor, etc. However, Forte is a great 
product and let's you focus much more on just using Java and less on 
worrying about component assembly.
   I know that if you've used VB you'll be familiar with component 
assembly already, but the switch in paradigms might be exactly what gets 
in your way with VAJ.
   I haven't used Code/400 in a few years. I always really liked 
Code/400 for development of RPG and is really confused my why sites 
wouldn't upgrade to it since I felt it really made a big difference in 
programmer productivity. I assume it is only better now then when I last 
used it. So I don't want to disparage it at all, I'm just pointing out 
that VisualAge for Java is really a very good product. I'm a really 
whiner and if there was plenty to whine about I'd be pouring it out here.


MWalter@hanoverwire.com wrote:

> THAT'S IT. I'VE HAD IT. I've tried all weekend to make VAJAVA work for me.


[snip]

> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Walter
> Sr. Programmer/Analyst
> Hanover Wire Cloth a div of CCX, Inc.
> mwalter@hanoverwire.com
> http://www.hanoverwire.com
> 717.637.3795 Ext.3040
> 
-- 

   Chris Rehm
<mailto:javadisciple@earthlink.net>


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