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  • Subject: Re: Interesting java link
  • From: "Larry Loen" <lwloen@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:12:58 -0600
  • Importance: Normal


The "bad Java" article says, among many other things:

   The vast majority of the high-profile attempts to use Java to create
   major desktop applications have failed.

This article seems to be a pro-Microsoft article.  I notice there is a
lot of talk about failures that are a year or more old, a few notices
about running embedded (where even it doesn't seem to be able
to claim Java fails) and nothing whatever that I saw about Java on
the server, which may be Java's greatest success platform.  In
short, the focus is on the areas most important to Microsoft and the
facts seem decidedly old and out of date.  Admittedly,
I didn't read it like I would read a patent filing (not worth that kind
of exam IMHO), but I didn't see it.

Interesting that some "survey" with 38 whole programmers is cited as
proof Java has poor productivity.  That sounds just like the weight
loss cures; far too easy to prove the result you set out to prove.
Admittedly, such things are hard and expensive to do, and maybe
is on the up-and-up, but given the rest of the article, which seems to me
distinctly pro-Microsoft, I take that particular survey with a grain of
salt.

Speaking personally, I am a pretty darn good C++ programmer,
but Java is just plain more productive for most business-related things
and I know plenty who are fluent in both that agree with me.

This makes me wonder who is behind "salon" magazine?  Is it just into
being outrageous?  Or, is this a Microsoft organ, official or unofficial?
I
couldn't find out readily from wandering the web site.  There are places
in the world that do make it their mission to promote Redmond whether
they are bought and paid for by MS or not.

The "next" article is all about the death of Pascal, which
sounds kind of hype-y, but it might surprise the Delphi community that
I don't even participate in.  But, of course, it is just the sort of
storyline
that Microsoft would love to see. . .



Larry W. Loen  -   Senior Java and AS/400 Performance Analyst
                          Dept HP4, Rochester MN


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