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Title: RE: Modeling tools.
Look at TogetherJ, I think you'll find it is a far better modelling tool and as Gilles pointed out the round trip support is very very good
 
Biggest issue is the price for the enterprise version  (new version and pricing was just done at Java One) and cost of some of the Coad Workshops.  But unless your  highly skilled in OO modelling I would go with the workshops. (i.e. Costly buty valuable)
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Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 3:08 PM
Subject: RE: Modeling tools.

We use Rational Rose which is the most widely distributed tool, but
there is one thing i don't really like with it: the round trip engeenering
support is not very good.

The result is that you must model for the code generation and not for a clean
object/uml description.

Eg: A client can have several accounts.

The UML graph should be: an association between a client and several (1-n) accounts.
With Rose, if you want the code to be correctly generated you must cut this association
and replace it with an aggregation between the client and a collection (eg: a vector, which
will store the accounts).

--> I have analysis and conception models. If i want to generate the code with Rose without affecting
my conception models i must make a "generation" model (what i don't).

For team support, you must be well organized, because you can't really share components between teams.
But most of the tools have exactly the same problem.

There is one good, written in Java, tool which is named TogetherJ. This tool has a very good round-trip
support. When you model, you can choose (and see) the implementation (eg: you model the association between
the client and its accounts, and you choose to use a vector, or a hashtable, or anything else, to implement
the association)

Gilles

-----Original Message-----
From: Aleti, Anil [mailto:aaleti@navisys.com]
Sent: lundi, 26. juin 2000 20:05
To: 'JAVA400-L@midrange.com'
Subject: Modeling tools.


Hi JGuru's,

Any suggestions for good modeling tools. Atleast something you are using...

Thanks in advance,
Anil.
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