Thanks Will!
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From: egl-i-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:egl-i-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of William A Smythe
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 8:36 AM
To: EGL on and around the IBM i
Cc: EGL on and around the IBM i; egl-i-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [EGL-i] Wooo Hooo!
The following new tutorial shows how to create a Web service and UI in EGL
that connects to MySQL:
http://www-949.ibm.com/software/rational/cafe/docs/DOC-3370
The tutorial is written for the EGL Community Edition tool (so the steps
will be slightly different for Rational Business Developer / Rational
Developer for i for SOA Construction)
Also, you should check out the new EGL learning materials that cover
database access, service access, etc:
http://www-949.ibm.com/software/rational/cafe/docs/DOC-3373
http://www-949.ibm.com/software/rational/cafe/docs/DOC-3374
These materials all use EGL Community Edition (CE). If you are simply
evaluating EGL, EGL CE is a good tool to start with. Installing is simple.
Here's a link for more information and to download:
http://www-949.ibm.com/software/rational/cafe/community/egl/ce?view=overview
Thanks,
Will Smythe
Product Line Manager
Rational Business Developer, EGL Community Edition, and Rational Migration
Extension IBM Rational Software, RTP, NC
919.254.8771
smythew@xxxxxxxxxx
To learn more about EGL, visit the EGL Cafe:
http://www.ibm.com/rational/eglcafe
From: rengelhardt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: "EGL on and around the IBM i" <egl-i@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 02/23/2010 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [EGL-i] Wooo Hooo!
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Hi pete...sorry about the vaguery. I am primarily an RPG programmer, that
has been thrust into a "cross platform" situation.
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From: Pete Helgren <Pete@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:40:12
To: EGL on and around the IBM i<egl-i@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [EGL-i] Wooo Hooo!
Joe will probably weigh in here... EGL can create and consume web services
so EGL will do what you are looking for. You have probably already come
across this article from Jon Sayles (EGL Evangelist) :
http://tinyurl.com/yhulfyx In fact there are some great resources at the
EGL Cafe that can help you get started.
http://www-949.ibm.com/software/rational/cafe/community/egl
Is there a one size fits all language/IDE ? I don't think so. But you can
do web services with EGL if that is what you are after.
When you say you need to do web services that access data on an SQL Server
(MS SQL?) it sounds like you want to consume a web service rather than
expose an application as a web service. Again, EGL can both consume and
expose web services but there are many tools that can do the same. Are you
primarily an RPG programmer or is your background in Java or Cobol? Knowing
where you are coming from might help us point you to the "best" solution.
Pete
rengelhardt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Hi Joe
The message format is predefined in a spec.
I'm looking for a 1 size fits all IDE to do web services to a WAS and
on
the i.
I know I can do it on the i, I already have. I was under the
impression
that EGL (and RBD) was what I needed.
I don't need to do RichUI (yet). I need to do web services that access
data on a SQL server.
Am I on the wrong path?
Thanks.
RE
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From: Joe Pluta <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:09:26
To: EGL on and around the IBM i<egl-i@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [EGL-i] Wooo Hooo!
I'm not sure I understand the question. Are you saying someone is
going to give you an XML layout and you're supposed to write the web
service for it? You can do it, but that's usually not the way things are
done.
Typically you would define the business requirement, then build the
record that handles it. Next, you'd build a function that returns the
record, and with a couple of clicks turn that into a web service.
Finally, you'd generate the WSDL for that service and give it to the
consumer.
Rarely have I seen the situation where the consumer tells the provider
what the XML will look like. In that case, you might be better off
just reading the XML and using whatever language you're most
comfortable with to parse it. In fact, you can do it with RPG easily
enough.
Joe
Finally! A resource that I can ask dumb questions about EGL and get
smart
answers!
Here's my challenge:
Create a host of web services that not only access data on the i, but
can
also access other DB's (SQL server) using some type of connection
stream (JDBC, ODBC, etc).
Here's my experience:
Senior level developer that has used another 4GL to create web
services
on
the i (aside from EGL). I have used Rational (RDi for RPG and CLP
programming and just [last week] downloaded and have started to use
RBD
-
with WAS 7.0 for Developers). I was lucky enough to get WAS 7.0
running on
my PC and start the server, but have no idea how to write in EGL. I
have
completed a couple of the tutorials (Hello World jsp and Hello World
service) but NEED MORE!!
Here's what I'd like to get from this forum:
The knowledge of HOW to create web services that will connect to
specific
DB's to respond to requestors with specific XML structures (defined
by
specs) as the response.
Not too much to ask, eh?
HEP ME .HEP ME PLEASE!!!
Thanks!
Robert Engelhardt
IBM i Sr. Developer
P.O. Box 2198
Pahrump, NV 89041
(702)375-1912
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