Re: Document level backup and other point.

I've never looked at Doc level restores. Maybe it's different than I can 
imagine, but if you're restoring a single document, do you not have to 
navigate to the document(s) you wish to restore to tell the software which 
document(s) you need to restore? So how is this much different than 
restoring the file and then finding the document(s)?

Regarding using an NFS share, we have a Netapp device that we are using 
for mail archival for email over 1 year old. We are using Domino archiving 
and the archive server is a Linux box that mounts the archive folder over 
an NFS share on our NAS. We tried this mount with our iSeries and it 
appears that the OS thinks the NFS is too slow. We can actually mount it, 
but when we try creating an NSF it bombs out. I worked with Walter some on 
this offline. The NFS share is really fast with our Linux server and 
should be the same with Windows.

From what I've seen, there's really not a business purpose to just get rid 

of your iSeries other than the skillset of the Domino Administrator. Going 
the VMWare route will probably be fairly expensive, but so will upgrading 
that iSeries hardware whenever you have to do that...

Chris Whisonant
Comporium
Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator
IBM Certified Specialist -- eServer i5 iSeries Domino Technical Solutions 
V5R3
IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2
IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5
IBM Certified Associate Developer - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5
803.326.7270

domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 
10/01/2006 11:55:20 AM:

I've been 'challenged' by the Domino administrator who wants to move 
the Domino servers to Windows because 'he not comfortable with 
OS/400'.  Don't know when he actually had to do anything with the 
operating system but that's another story.

Anyway, in trying to make his case about moving to Windows he 
mentioned that they, being the Windows camp, can do document level 
backups through our backup software (ComVault).  He went on about how 
on the iSeries it is 'clunky' to have to restore a users entire 
mailbox to another directory and sift through to find the document(s) 
that they deleted then  paste them back into their Mailbox.  With this 
facility, he could just recover the one document back to their mailbox.

Anything, third party or through BRMS anyones aware of?

He's planning on running a physical server and one VMWare server and 
clustering them. The OpenSystem folks do that a lot because they can't 
recover a Windows system if it not running under VMWare (without 
rebuilding the server and reinstalling all the software, patches, 
etc).  Don't know what their planning on doing in a real disaster if 
the 'recoverable system' is running under VMWare.  I'm figuring that 
the physical server is in the picture because they know the VMWare 
server won't handle the load.
(Home Office : about 550 Notes clients, Field : 300ish Web users - 
iNotes). 

Another point that I need clarification on :  I did a Show Stats (?) 
on each of our Domino Servers and recorded the transaction counts:
Home Office Mail (iSeries) - 5.5 Million transactions for the dates 
8/8 through 8/16
Field Users (Windows server browsers based) - 380 Thousand 
transactions for the same period.

Is it fair to compare the transactions between these two types of 
connections?  I would have thought the iNotes connection would have 
resulted in the server doing more transactions.  Both server just do 
email, calendaring, etc.

We have two other Domino application servers, one on the iSeries 
(Notes Clients) and one on Windows (Notes clients and Web users). 
Those transactions are more in line with each other (iSeries - 3 M, 
Windows 2M)

Just thought of another question.  IBM is changing the licensing model 
to PVU (?), Processor Value Units.  How does that work with VMWare? 
The VMWare ESX server they are planning on running the 'backup' Domino 
server on (and one of the application servers) is running on an eight 
way dual core box.  Is there a PVU for each processor?  If so,  I 
think I just found my cost savings for being on the iSeries.

Other points he brought up:
iSeries disk is expensive.  He's got me there.

SAN.  We have a SAN for OpenSystems.  He said he can just go over to 
the SAN admin. and ask for 100GB of DASD and get it on the fly.  My 
response is, "OK,  I'll by three to four hundred GB of DASD, let it 
sit around till you need it"
I was wondering if we had to implement an archive email server (all 
emails are retained for seven years.  We're and insurance company so 
it may have to be done) that if I could mount a NFS volume to the 
SAN?  Do you think something like this might be supported?  I was 
thinking about mounting everything below the Data directory , 
ie ../data/mail would be on the SAN accessed through a NAS head 
device.  Could mount it at IPL.

DUCS. Domino Universal Connector.  Allows voice mail to be referenced 
through you Notes client.  Currently, the users mailbox has to be on a 
Windows Domino server.  I think it's one of those things that is 
looked at, don't really seeing it being a big deal and it's nice to 
have.  More importantly, one more thing to use as a 'knock' against 
the iSeries and boost 'their agenda'.

Replication : They are planning on replicating the SAN off site.  I 
guess from a D.R. perspective (as Domino goes), I could have a 
partition running offsite and just forward a copy of all email and 
other applications.

I talked about the usual things of the iSeries.  Overall TCO, 
reliability, scalability, support (this is really big - Calling the OS 
guy , IBM, and having them conference in a Lotus person).  Problem is, 
it's difficult to show and get folks to understand these things if 
it's been there all along.  The TCO thing is tough to talk about when 
we already have 125-150 Windows servers...  Think they would have 
already understood that by now.

I, like probably most folks on this list, realize that the iSeries is 
a superior OS (when I said that to them, one guy laughed... wanted to 
smack 'em.. or  volley back "When you know something more than Window, 
perhaps you opinion will mean something :)  )

My recommendation on Monday may be to upgrade the iSeries (maybe an 
520 express) and consolidate all the Domino servers on the iSeries.

Anyway, I've just got too worked up and PO'd for a Sunday morning. 
Cold and pissing rain in Albany.. enough to put anyone in a bad mood.


Any info or counter points that you can think of would be great.

TIA,

mike.
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