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Sean, agreed. There will probably always be some place for Domino but we shouldn't rule out the new offerings either. I believe as far as this thread goes that there was probably some confusion/miscommunication from my boss regarding what he perceived from the session at Tech. Conference. Chris Whisonant Comporium Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2 IBM Certified Associate System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6 803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 11/15/2004 01:17:14 PM: > There are still tons of legacy applications around written in COBOL, > PL/1, Assembler, FORTRAN, REXX and lots of other applications using > ISPF/PDF, CICS, IMS and other old systems. No system is ever truly > retired. > > Don't see any reason to get rid of Domino. It will just be blended into > other offerings from IBM. > > IBM itself would have to get rid of Domino internally first along with > tons of large companies. > > The product makes money for IBM and already works well with IBMs J2EE > offerings. > > As with anything in technology or life you should always continue to > learn. > I already know JAVA and Websphere inside and we are integrating it all > over the place. > > We will have a full blown deployment here in a few months and are already > running a few apps that user the best of > domino and Java. > > Domino will eventually freeze. Not sure when that will be. Even if version > 8 is the last one, Domino will still have its place. > After all it is cheap, and relatively easy to work with compared to other > tools out there. > > Sean > > http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com > > > > domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent by: domino400-bounces+seanmurphy=bedbath.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx > 11/15/2004 01:00 PM > Please respond to > domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > To > domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx > cc > > Subject > Domino400 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 191 > > > > > > > Send Domino400 mailing list submissions to > domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > You can reach the person managing the list at > domino400-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Domino400 digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Future of Domino? (Chris Whisonant) > 2. Re: Future of Domino? (Robert Laing) > 3. Re: Future of Domino? (Chris Whisonant) > 4. Re: Future of Domino? (Walter Scanlan) > 5. Re: Future of Domino? (Chris Whisonant) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > message: 1 > date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:28:34 -0500 > from: Chris Whisonant <Chris.Whisonant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > subject: Future of Domino? > > My boss just came back from the iSeries Tech Conference last week in > Vegas. He went to a class "WebSphere and Domino: What, When and Why" given > > by Tracy Smith. Slide number 42 is something that I have not seen before. > It has a graphic that shows the convergence of Domino and Workplace after > the release of Domino 7. My boss stated that the presenter alluded that > there would not be a Domino 8. > > Ed Brill actually talks about this in his blog entry for today - which I > am reading now. It seems to be more reassuring. I know this is somewhat in > > the infant stages, but what does this mean for Domino Admins/Developers if > > there is going to be a convergence? Should we start migrating to > Workplace? I'm not worried, but I could see these questions coming to me > from my boss... > > http://www.edbrill.com/ebrill/edbrill.nsf?Open > > Chris Whisonant > Comporium > Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator > IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2 > IBM Certified Associate System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6 > 803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax > > ------------------------------ > > message: 2 > date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:38:06 -0500 > from: Robert Laing <rlaing@xxxxxxxxx> > subject: Re: Future of Domino? > > I went to the Domino Advisor conference in Las Vegas this summer and there > > was a presentation from an IBM'r who outlined the future plans for Domino. > > He had slides with Domino version 10 described, no detail obviously, but > he stated that the Domino roadmap is already planned for several years > down the road. I can dig up that powerpoint if anyone's interested -- > send me email directly... > > I take comments about Domino going away the same as I react to comments > about the iSeries going away -- how long have I been hearing the iSeries > is obsolete and will be phased out ? Since 1995 ??? > > Bob > > > > > > Chris Whisonant <Chris.Whisonant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent by: domino400-bounces+rlaing=gemko.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx > 11/15/2004 11:28 AM > Please respond to > Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To > Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > cc > > Subject > Future of Domino? > > > > > > > My boss just came back from the iSeries Tech Conference last week in > Vegas. He went to a class "WebSphere and Domino: What, When and Why" given > > > by Tracy Smith. Slide number 42 is something that I have not seen before. > It has a graphic that shows the convergence of Domino and Workplace after > the release of Domino 7. My boss stated that the presenter alluded that > there would not be a Domino 8. > > Ed Brill actually talks about this in his blog entry for today - which I > am reading now. It seems to be more reassuring. I know this is somewhat in > > > the infant stages, but what does this mean for Domino Admins/Developers if > > > there is going to be a convergence? Should we start migrating to > Workplace? I'm not worried, but I could see these questions coming to me > from my boss... > > http://www.edbrill.com/ebrill/edbrill.nsf?Open > > Chris Whisonant > Comporium > Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator > IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2 > IBM Certified Associate System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6 > 803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax > _______________________________________________ > This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) mailing list > To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 > or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > message: 3 > date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:40:21 -0500 > from: Chris Whisonant <Chris.Whisonant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > subject: Re: Future of Domino? > > Yeah, I know what you mean. I was at that Advisor conference too and I > remember them talking about future versions past 8. Oh well... > > There's a good thread about it at: > > http://www-10.lotus.com/ldd/nd6forum. > nsf/55c38d716d632d9b8525689b005ba1c0/46383faf4f0ad30d85256f480065fb20? > OpenDocument&Highlight=0,n%3Ftes,workplace > > > Chris Whisonant > Comporium > Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator > IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2 > IBM Certified Associate System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6 > 803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax > > domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on > 11/15/2004 11:38:06 AM: > > > I went to the Domino Advisor conference in Las Vegas this summer and > there > > was a presentation from an IBM'r who outlined the future plans for > Domino. > > He had slides with Domino version 10 described, no detail obviously, > but > > he stated that the Domino roadmap is already planned for several years > > down the road. I can dig up that powerpoint if anyone's interested -- > > send me email directly... > > > > I take comments about Domino going away the same as I react to comments > > about the iSeries going away -- how long have I been hearing the iSeries > > > > is obsolete and will be phased out ? Since 1995 ??? > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris Whisonant <Chris.Whisonant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent by: domino400-bounces+rlaing=gemko.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > 11/15/2004 11:28 AM > > Please respond to > > Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > To > > Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > cc > > > > Subject > > Future of Domino? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My boss just came back from the iSeries Tech Conference last week in > > Vegas. He went to a class "WebSphere and Domino: What, When and Why" > given > > > > by Tracy Smith. Slide number 42 is something that I have not seen > before. > > It has a graphic that shows the convergence of Domino and Workplace > after > > the release of Domino 7. My boss stated that the presenter alluded that > > there would not be a Domino 8. > > > > Ed Brill actually talks about this in his blog entry for today - which I > > > > am reading now. It seems to be more reassuring. I know this is somewhat > in > > > > the infant stages, but what does this mean for Domino Admins/Developers > if > > > > there is going to be a convergence? Should we start migrating to > > Workplace? I'm not worried, but I could see these questions coming to me > > > > from my boss... > > > > http://www.edbrill.com/ebrill/edbrill.nsf?Open > > > > Chris Whisonant > > Comporium > > Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator > > IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2 > > IBM Certified Associate System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6 > > 803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax > > _______________________________________________ > > This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) mailing list > > To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 > > or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) mailing list > > To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 > > or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > message: 4 > date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:50:05 -0600 > from: Walter Scanlan <wscanlan@xxxxxxxxxx> > subject: Re: Future of Domino? > > All, > I have asked Tracy to respond to this thread since his comments > started it. > > Having said that while I cannot comment on products not yet announced > Lotus has committed to major releases of Domino after 7. > > Walter Scanlan > Senior Software Engineer > Domino For iSeries > Internet WSCANLAN@xxxxxxxxxx > CLP R4, R5 and Domino 6 > Phone 507-286-6088 > > > > > Chris Whisonant <Chris.Whisonant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent by: domino400-bounces+wscanlan=us.ibm.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx > 11/15/2004 10:40 AM > Please respond to > Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 > > > To > Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > cc > > Subject > Re: Future of Domino? > > > > > > > Yeah, I know what you mean. I was at that Advisor conference too and I > remember them talking about future versions past 8. Oh well... > > There's a good thread about it at: > > http://www-10.lotus.com/ldd/nd6forum. > nsf/55c38d716d632d9b8525689b005ba1c0/46383faf4f0ad30d85256f480065fb20? > OpenDocument&Highlight=0,n%3Ftes,workplace > > > > Chris Whisonant > Comporium > Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator > IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2 > IBM Certified Associate System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6 > 803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax > > domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on > 11/15/2004 11:38:06 AM: > > > I went to the Domino Advisor conference in Las Vegas this summer and > there > > was a presentation from an IBM'r who outlined the future plans for > Domino. > > He had slides with Domino version 10 described, no detail obviously, > but > > he stated that the Domino roadmap is already planned for several years > > down the road. I can dig up that powerpoint if anyone's interested -- > > send me email directly... > > > > I take comments about Domino going away the same as I react to comments > > about the iSeries going away -- how long have I been hearing the iSeries > > > > > is obsolete and will be phased out ? Since 1995 ??? > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris Whisonant <Chris.Whisonant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent by: domino400-bounces+rlaing=gemko.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > 11/15/2004 11:28 AM > > Please respond to > > Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > To > > Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > cc > > > > Subject > > Future of Domino? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My boss just came back from the iSeries Tech Conference last week in > > Vegas. He went to a class "WebSphere and Domino: What, When and Why" > given > > > > by Tracy Smith. Slide number 42 is something that I have not seen > before. > > It has a graphic that shows the convergence of Domino and Workplace > after > > the release of Domino 7. My boss stated that the presenter alluded that > > there would not be a Domino 8. > > > > Ed Brill actually talks about this in his blog entry for today - which I > > > > > am reading now. It seems to be more reassuring. I know this is somewhat > in > > > > the infant stages, but what does this mean for Domino Admins/Developers > if > > > > there is going to be a convergence? Should we start migrating to > > Workplace? I'm not worried, but I could see these questions coming to me > > > > > from my boss... > > > > http://www.edbrill.com/ebrill/edbrill.nsf?Open > > > > Chris Whisonant > > Comporium > > Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator > > IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2 > > IBM Certified Associate System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6 > > 803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax > > _______________________________________________ > > This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) mailing list > > To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 > > or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) mailing list > > To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 > > or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400. > > > _______________________________________________ > This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) mailing list > To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 > or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > message: 5 > date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:57:09 -0500 > from: Chris Whisonant <Chris.Whisonant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > subject: Re: Future of Domino? > > Thanks Walter. I didn't want to start anything major here - just checking > for more information before my boss gets too "excited" about this... > > Chris Whisonant > Comporium > Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator > IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2 > IBM Certified Associate System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6 > 803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax > > domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on > 11/15/2004 11:50:05 AM: > > > All, > > I have asked Tracy to respond to this thread since his comments > > started it. > > > > Having said that while I cannot comment on products not yet announced > > Lotus has committed to major releases of Domino after 7. > > > > Walter Scanlan > > Senior Software Engineer > > Domino For iSeries > > Internet WSCANLAN@xxxxxxxxxx > > CLP R4, R5 and Domino 6 > > Phone 507-286-6088 > > > > > > > > > > Chris Whisonant <Chris.Whisonant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent by: domino400-bounces+wscanlan=us.ibm.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > 11/15/2004 10:40 AM > > Please respond to > > Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 > > > > > > To > > Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > cc > > > > Subject > > Re: Future of Domino? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, I know what you mean. I was at that Advisor conference too and I > > remember them talking about future versions past 8. Oh well... > > > > There's a good thread about it at: > > > > http://www-10.lotus.com/ldd/nd6forum. > > nsf/55c38d716d632d9b8525689b005ba1c0/46383faf4f0ad30d85256f480065fb20? > > OpenDocument&Highlight=0,n%3Ftes,workplace > > > > > > Chris Whisonant > > Comporium > > Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator > > IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2 > > IBM Certified Associate System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6 > > 803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax > > > > domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on > > 11/15/2004 11:38:06 AM: > > > > > I went to the Domino Advisor conference in Las Vegas this summer and > > there > > > was a presentation from an IBM'r who outlined the future plans for > > Domino. > > > He had slides with Domino version 10 described, no detail obviously, > > but > > > he stated that the Domino roadmap is already planned for several years > > > > > down the road. I can dig up that powerpoint if anyone's interested -- > > > > > send me email directly... > > > > > > I take comments about Domino going away the same as I react to > comments > > > about the iSeries going away -- how long have I been hearing the > iSeries > > > > > > > is obsolete and will be phased out ? Since 1995 ??? > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris Whisonant <Chris.Whisonant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent by: domino400-bounces+rlaing=gemko.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > 11/15/2004 11:28 AM > > > Please respond to > > > Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > > To > > > Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > cc > > > > > > Subject > > > Future of Domino? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My boss just came back from the iSeries Tech Conference last week in > > > Vegas. He went to a class "WebSphere and Domino: What, When and Why" > > given > > > > > > by Tracy Smith. Slide number 42 is something that I have not seen > > before. > > > It has a graphic that shows the convergence of Domino and Workplace > > after > > > the release of Domino 7. My boss stated that the presenter alluded > that > > > there would not be a Domino 8. > > > > > > Ed Brill actually talks about this in his blog entry for today - which > > I > > > > > > > am reading now. It seems to be more reassuring. I know this is > somewhat > > in > > > > > > the infant stages, but what does this mean for Domino > Admins/Developers > > if > > > > > > there is going to be a convergence? Should we start migrating to > > > Workplace? I'm not worried, but I could see these questions coming to > me > > > > > > > from my boss... > > > > > > http://www.edbrill.com/ebrill/edbrill.nsf?Open > > > > > > Chris Whisonant > > > Comporium > > > Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator > > > IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions > V5R2 > > > IBM Certified Associate System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino > 6 > > > 803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax > > > _______________________________________________ > > > This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) mailing > list > > > To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 > > > or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > > at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) mailing > list > > > To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 > > > or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > > at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) mailing list > > To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 > > or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) mailing list > > To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 > > or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) digest list > To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 > or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400. > > > > End of Domino400 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 191 > ***************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) mailing list > To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 > or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400. >
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