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Nathan, We use Trend on the PC's and on the Domino. Not a bad theory the others have though. You can have the Domino server get it from either their website, or from another Domino server. Don't know if you can get it from some other server. We used to try to force all servers to get it from one Domino server. And it mostly worked. Some issues popped up and it was just so darned easy to workaround the issues by having each server just get it from the website. And we have them do it 4 times a day. And, can you believe, that we've actually jumped pattern files? Some days they really crank them out. Rob Berendt -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
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