RE: System API QlnDumpCobol -- COBOL400-L

Hi:
 
Allow me to join in your interesting and important topic on COBOL.  
 
As far as I can see, COBOL  (whether it be on the mainframes, midrange
computers, PC, etc.) it is still COBOL (of course with some minor
differences), am I right?
 
I have been working as a COBOL programmer for almost 9 years.  The
environment is PC COBOL, little exposure on CICS on the mainframes, but lots
and lots of experience in the HP 3000 and HP9000 arena where we use COBOL 85
and interfacing it with Screen Design (like the one on System 36) but it is
called VP-PLUS and reading data from the database using IMAGE database.
 
I don't dare to say that it is easy for a newcomer, as one has to be very
familiar with the API and INTRINSIC calls to produce good quality screens
and/or reading data from the various datasets from various databases at one
time.
 
What I don't understand is that why AS400 employers are reluctant to hire
competent COBOL programmers coming from other platforms?  I have a hard time
find a job in the AS400 arena (not to say COBOL is NOT popularly used now)
.... but when I go for these interviews the employer's excuse is NOT on the
language itself, but ".... I am looking for somebody with additional
knowledge in CL, SDA etc. as well".  Why?  I know that anybody with the
knowledge of the language can pick up the other things ..... but why
employers are so reluctant to hire non AS400 COBOL programmers?
 
The reason for me to look for an AS400 job is because I like to program in
that environment using externally described files, using embedded SQL and so
forth.
 
Any offer?
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Weatherly, Howard [mailto:hweatherly@dlis.dla.mil]
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:06 AM
To: 'COBOL400-L@midrange.com'
Subject: RE: System API QlnDumpCobol



The COBOL is much the same and you experience is not wasted, but there are
some different ways of doing things, The COBOL Guide and Reference are as
much as you should need but any book on COBOL-85 or COBOL/II will help with
the additions to the Language. The environment might be culture shock though
and the best way to learn that is to try things (assuming you have that
luxury) otherwise, IBM has excellent courses available, here is a good place
to start looking http://www-3.ibm.com/services/learning/
<http://www-3.ibm.com/services/learning/> 

-----Original Message----- 
From: IDNONADA [ mailto:idnonada@home.com <mailto:idnonada@home.com> ] 
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 17:06 
To: COBOL400-L@midrange.com 
Subject: Re: System API QlnDumpCobol 


Bruce: 
I have a ton of Cobol and RPGII experience, but none in the AS400 
environment.  My experience has been  'Legacy', using IBM, NCR, TI, and 
Unisys(Burroughs).  Is Cobol that much different in the AS400 environment 
than it is elsewhere?  What resources are available to 'Educate' one for 
smooth transition into the AS400 environment.  I appreciate any response. 
Thanx. 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "R. Bruce Hoffman, Jr." <rbruceh@attglobal.net> 
To: <COBOL400-L@midrange.com> 
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 1:50 PM 
Subject: Re: System API QlnDumpCobol 


> I would suspect case. The QlnDumpCobol vs. QLNDUMPCOBOL. 
> 
> It's a procedure and I have never tried to call the all uppercase value. 
> 
> 
> =========================================================== 
> R. Bruce Hoffman, Jr. 
>  -- IBM Certified Specialist - AS/400 Administrator 
>  -- IBM Certified Specialist - RPG IV Developer 
> 
> "America is the land that fought for freedom and then 
>   began passing laws to get rid of it." 
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Weatherly, Howard <hweatherly@dlis.dla.mil> 
> To: COBOL Midrange (E-mail) <COBOL400-L@midrange.com>; Midrange List 
> (E-mail) <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> 
> Date: Friday, July 20, 2001 11:45 AM 
> Subject: System API QlnDumpCobol 
> 
> 
> >Does anyone have a clue what object has become invisible to the compiler 
> >that is causing this to be not found? 
> > 
> >If I CRTBNDCBL it works, When I use CRTSQLCBLI it does not work! I am so 
> >confused!! 
> > 
> > 
> >CPD5D02    Diagnostic              30    07/20/01   10:20:01   QBNBIND 
> >QSYS        *STMT 
> > 
> >QBNBIND      QSYS         *STMT 
> >From module . . . . . . . . :   QBNBSYMR 
> > 
> >From procedure  . . . . . . :   QBNBSYMR__UnresolvedReferenceIterator 
> > 
> >Statement . . . . . . . . . :   31 
> > 
> >To module . . . . . . . . . :   QBNBSYMR 
> > 
> >To procedure  . . . . . . . :   QBNBSYMR__SignalUnresolvedReferences 
> > 
> >Statement . . . . . . . . . :   8 
> > 
> >Message . . . . :   Definition not found for symbol 'QLNDUMPCOBOL'. 
> > 
> >Cause . . . . . :   No definition was found for reference QLNDUMPCOBOL in

> > 
> >  *MODULE object LMTD601D in library QTEMP. The definition either does 
not 
> > 
> >  exist or is not of the same data or procedure type as the reference. 
> > 
> >  Recovery  . . . :   Try the Create Program (CRTPGM) command again, 
> >supplying 
> >  an object that contains a definition for symbol QLNDUMPCOBOL. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >Howard Weatherly 
> >(616) 961-4324 
> >hweatherly@dlis.dla.mil 
> >Howard.Weatherly@ctg.com 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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