Thanks Les, that is *not* our situation, in latest physical.

I do remember in years gone by, when there were more errors in managing tags
that contemporary, where we got *No Tag on items which were overlooked by
the physical process.

We ran INV900 end month December, before creating tags.
We created tags for *all* facilities to be counted, warehouses in those
facilities, on *any* items with non-zero in opening balance. In addition to
pre-printed tags for items with book inventory (opening balance), we had
hand-written tags for items found, which existed, but were zero in the
All but 4 tags, by accident, got posted.

After dumping tags into BPCS, and completing other end-fiscal steps, we
replaced standard cost for 2012 with story for 2013.

Before / after dumping the tags, we made archive copies of IWI (item-whs
inventory). Before dumping, we made copy of IPH (physical tags). This is
because after physical, there are always surprise questions by auditors and
others, for which access to data before the dump, can be helpful. We have
various reports for them, matching tag file, and ITH-O records with costs,
other topics.
ILI was not included in our archiving.

My current curiosity is because if the auditors ask, my answer will be, I
don't know, I have only speculation. I'd like to figure it out before

I have been spot checking this in facility with lowest volume of activity.
One with only 10 items with non-zero inventory after physical, only 17 items
in the physical (7 went zero), but it also has 16 of the *No Tag. It looks
to me like all 16 (I had not checked 100% yet) had non-zero in IWI.WCUSA
(allocated to customer orders).

All our *No Tag transactions, for zero in the facility where I am spot
checking, were for items with zero opening balance before and after the
physical. Other items were zero before and after, but did not get a *No

All *No Tag transactions were in warehouses which were inventoried. We have
another facility with inventory, not in the physical. No *No Tag there. So
I believe it is an artifact of doing the physical in a particular warehouse,
and I suspect WCUSA involvement.

Our ITH goes back 2 years. I used interactive SQL to get a count of *No Tag
for prior years. It is just over 3,000 each year, for physicals where we
still have ITH records.

Al Mac (WOW) = Alister William Macintyre
day job = Lawrenceville In via VPN/400 (our division dates
back to 1955)
-----Original Message-----
From: bpcs-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bpcs-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Les Mittman
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 9:30 PM
To: BPCS ERP System
Subject: Re: [BPCS-L] * No Tag

Hi Al,

My recollection is that in BPCS V4.05CD, an "O" Opening Balance Transaction
the "* No Tag" in the ITH Comment field is triggered by a Location Inventory

(ILI) record that has an Onhand (in the Opening Balance field), but it does
have a corresponding Inventory Tag in the IPH file entered through Tag
Entry/Update (INV600).
You should also see that the Quantity on this ITH record is 0.

That is, this Item/Whse/Lot/Location has an Opening Balance, but it was not
counted through the Physical Inventory Subsystem. BPCS creates an "O"
Transaction with a Quantity=0 to indicate that this record was not counted
during the Physical Inventory. Therefore, its Opening Balance remained

I just had a similar situation with a client.

Please let me know if my explanation matches your observations.


Les Mittman
BPCS Consultant
Cell: 847-858-5235

From: Al Mac Wow <macwheel99@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: BPCS ERP System <bpcs-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Mon, January 21, 2013 6:27:03 PM
Subject: [BPCS-L] * No Tag

Out of a curiosity itch, don't desperately need to know, can anyone tell me
what triggers * No Tag "O" transaction into ITH during Physical Inventory?

We are on BPCS 405 CD, did a physical inventory at end of 2013. We printed
tags on items with non-zero inventory.

9,874 = count tags (when all done)

3,220 = count * No Tag records

13,094 = total of above

20,331 = count IWI immediately before dump tags

20,703 = count IWI immediately after dump tags

My latest suspicion is that the * No Tag records were for items with zero
inventory before & after physical, but had allocations for orders, in the
facilities being inventoried.

Al Mac (WOW) = Alister William Macintyre


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