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Hi DeeDee: I hope I didn't communicate that it doesn't make sense for people to move to LX. Not at all. What I meant was, each company has to evaluate the merits of an upgrade on its own. The particular client I mentioned only has a need for the core manufacturing modules, and the existing ones in 4.05CD satisfy their requirements. Other companies determined it makes sense to move to LX. For example: Which modules do you use? Will the enhancements in LX streamline your business processes, improve efficiencies, etc? Are there new modules in LX that your business could make use of? There are additional packages that integrate outside of the core manufacturing that may provide value to your enterprise. A cost benefit analysis would determine if LX is right for you. Sorry for any confusion... Best regards, Paul Reed Advanced Systems and Products (ASAP) PR@xxxxxxxxxxxx www.BPCSPros.com p.s. I used another PC to send this message earlier, sorry if it gets duplicated. -----Original Message----- From: bpcs-l-bounces+pr=bpcspros.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bpcs-l-bounces+pr=bpcspros.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DeeDee Virgei Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:57 AM To: SSA's BPCS ERP System Subject: Re: [BPCS-L] BPCS maintenance Thank you Paul for sharing your LX experience. It sounds like LX isn't to the point where an upgrade is feasible... Thanks again. Regard, DeeDee Virgei Project Leader Nelson Stud Welding, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: bpcs-l-bounces+deedee.virgei=nelsonstud.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bpcs-l-bounces+deedee.virgei=nelsonstud.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Reed Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 8:54 AM To: 'SSA's BPCS ERP System' Subject: Re: [BPCS-L] BPCS maintenance There have been quite a few customers that have raised concerns over very high 'key fees' and the increase in OGS. If you are moving to a new processor, you won't have much of a choice in paying the key fee. You could however, time your purchase to end of fiscal quarter, reps are looking to make their sales numbers and may be more willing to negotiate. In the last few months we've seen an increase in the number of BPCS companies switching from OGS to our BPCS Support services. (In addition to the cost factor, we also support modifications, 3rd party packages, interfaces, provide education and programming services, etc). It boils down to financial calculations. If you feel the version you are on is stable and satisfies your business requirements for the foreseeable future, it may make sense to drop OGS until such time as new features in BPCS warrant the expense of an upgrade. If you feel you will want to upgrade in the next 2 years, it may make sense to keep OGS. I use this analogy: I use Quicken. Each year they come out with a new version, and let's say the new version costs $100. I look at what features are included. If all I get are some new reports or different layouts to the screen, it's not worth the investment. When Quicken began allowing automatic downloads of stock quotes and bank/credit card statements, that to me WAS worth the investment, as it would save me let's say 1 hour a week for 52 weeks = 52 hours. $100/52 = $1.92 per hour. I feel my time is worth more than $2 an hour so the expense to upgrade was justified. Folks at our company spent a fair amount of time reviewing LX both at the BPCS shows and SSA demos for our clients. The most recent review was done by a client on 4.05CD. While LX is a great product and based upon our experience much better than SAP (in cost to implement/maintain alone SAP can be 3x-10x more expensive), when we did our cost/benefit analysis for the client, it didn't make sense to upgrade, and their management concurred. Several of our clients on version 8 also looked at LX and decided to wait. We think there are great things down the road. The Epiphany product (recently acquired) will add a lot when thoroughly integrated. Some of the other acquisitions need better integration as well. IMHO, 3 years down the road there won't be an iseries package that's in the same league as BPCS. Best regards, Paul Reed Advanced Systems and Products (ASAP) PR@xxxxxxxxxxxx www.BPCSPros.com -- This is the SSA's BPCS ERP System (BPCS-L) mailing list To post a message email: BPCS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/bpcs-l or email: BPCS-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/bpcs-l. Delivered-To: deedee.virgei@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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