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Yep - that problem is ours.  We currently generate shop orders, then use
that demand to create the PO.....we're starting MRP first with MPS as a
secondary 'benefit'.

-----Original Message-----
From: bpcs-l-admin@midrange.com [mailto:bpcs-l-admin@midrange.com]On
Behalf Of Paul LaFlamme
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 5:01 PM
To: bpcs-l@midrange.com
Subject: RE: MPS - Customer Demand and General ECL Date Questions


Hi Rob,

We're going to use the MRP240 for MPS. MRP is secondary to us right now, but
we'll probably try to run with MRP200. Our MRP240, exception only is about
200 pages!

Are you having a problem with MPS suggesting you move shop order due dates
to be the same day as the Request Date?


-----Original Message-----
From: bpcs-l-admin@midrange.com [mailto:bpcs-l-admin@midrange.com]On
Behalf Of Rob Stagis
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 4:34 PM
To: bpcs-l@midrange.com
Subject: RE: MPS - Customer Demand and General ECL Date Questions


No solutions, Paul - sorry.  I'll watch this thread wwith interest.  I'm
tunring on MPS/MRP as we speak.....my exception reports are hundreds of
pages as I clean data up.  What reports do your scheduling people use?  The
'detail' and 'exception' reports are hugemongous. (MRP200 and -240)

-----Original Message-----
From: bpcs-l-admin@midrange.com [mailto:bpcs-l-admin@midrange.com]On
Behalf Of Paul LaFlamme
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:57 AM
To: bpcs-l@midrange.com
Subject: MPS - Customer Demand and General ECL Date Questions


We're using BPCS V405CD(ptf2) and getting ready to begin using MPS/MRP.
We're a discrete order job shop Die Cast manufacturer (Order Policy H on MPS
items) and will rely on Customer Orders to drive the MPS.

I see that it is the LRDTE field (Request Date) in ECL (Order line file)
that feeds to the MPS.  The order entry department will back the transit
(shipping) time from our shipping dock to the customer's location and enter
that date in the LRDTE field.

The challenge I have is that Shop order due dates, and planned order due
dates as they appear in the MPS system are the same date as the REQDATE.
This means that the system won't plan the shop orders to be finished till
some time during the day that the order is supposed to ship out.

Is the REQDATE really meant to be a "Request to complete manufacturing" or a
"Request to Ship?"

If it is in fact, a request to complete manufacturing, would I simply back
the date up by one day. I'd love to hear from other BPCS users as to how
their system is communicating customer requirements to manufacturing's MPS.

Another way I thought I could handle it is by adding a 1 day std move time
to the last operation. But this would mean changing the router of EVERY Item
and every alternate router as well.

Lead time is for purchase order items, correct?

Also, how are the Schedule Ship Date LSDTE & Schedule Receive Dates LSCDT
used by the system? Should these be updated after an MPS committment? If so,
by whom?

Thank You!

Paul LaFlamme
Manager of MIS
Kennedy Die Castings, Inc.
508-752-5234 X3044

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