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Because of many co-workers intermittent confusion looking at summary totals of costs on CST300 and other BPCS info sources, especially questioning why INV300 cost disagrees with some other place cost, we created a Query/400 ... people key in Item # and they get a screen display listing ALL CMF records on that item. The header above buckets, sets, etc. annotated as to most common meanings. Query let's them select to exclude on facility etc. for those people not confused. Adjacent menu option does same thing for CIC. This helps us find Hidden Costs. Definition ... BPCS is doing what it supposed to do, but something has fallen out of our brain as to where BPCS is getting this cost from. We have mass of data, but you gotta know right search question query to get at the data you need. The most common areas of confusion for our people include (you may be in one of these boats): Cost in some facility where a body did not expect in that facility for that item. If a human being makes a mistake, BPCS has a memory like an Elephant, and will use that mistake in all calculations until some human being stumbles over and fixes that mistake. Actual costs do not work the same way as Standard costs. You have to look at the roll-up pattern on the Costing Menu ... for example a sub-component may be mainly a labor cost, but at a higher level it shows up as a material cost. It may pay to print one copy each cost report available on same item ... many contain data not found on the others. To err is human, but BPCS also makes mistakes. There are some systemic bugs in how BPCS does its number crunching, which includes CST600 and CST270 and CST900. The worst one, in my opinion, is that in RPG there is a maximum field size of 30 numerical, 9 decimal and BPCS populates a bunch of fields defined at that size then multiplies and divides them with work field of same size. Now in RPG manual from IBM it clearly spells out that this can lead to unpredictable results. For example ... multiply zero times one and you could get any of the following results zero, 0.00001, 0.000001 minus, other possibilities This is because when the math is going on, IBM needs an extra space larger than the field sizes to handle some number crunching, and when values thrown out there into non-existing limbo, something can get lost or found. We first figured this out because of a rounding error in Billing, and traced the problem to unit of measure conversion where it should have multiplied 1 times 1 equals 1 but instead generated one of these 0.0001 additions. I have a fix it program that totals up what bucket zero SHOULD BE and compares to what bucket zero ACTUALLY IS then fixes those that are off (an accumulation of those 0.00001 plus or minus rounding errors) On rare occasion we have had this rounding error give us a cost value of something like 9999999999999999999999999.99998 (could be positive or negative) which I interpret as the 0.00001 plus minus errors wrapping round from zero to largest possible number for the field I run a regular query listing all items with negative costs. We get perhaps one a month. They come from the systemic rounding problem in shop order closing. I fix them with DFU.
Hi, We found it. This item has a previous level labor cost. The labor cost on the screen is the total of TL & PL, so didn't catch it until I looked at CMF. Thanks for the help. <===================================================> Terri Harteau **************** "There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes." - Dr. Who **************** Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/bpcs-l.
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