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  • Subject: Re: Order entry
  • From: "Cheryse Yorton" <cyorton@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:50:28 -0600

Milt,

Did you see this one?  We are mentioned.

Cheryse
----- Original Message -----
From: <MacWheel99@aol.com>
To: <BPCS-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: Order entry


> Rick - we are BPCS 405 CD Mix Mode 400 so some of what we know might not
be
> relevant to your needs, or my thinking might be considered to be totally
off
> the wall, but we are also a Make To Order Manufacturer & we also do
Engineer
> to Order.
>
> ORD500 can be a bit cumbersome to get the job done & there are a number of
> gotchas with respect to risk of human error going undetected.  It is also
> easy for humans to misconstrue some features & not use the system to its
full
> capabilities.  My management has not authorized me having AS/Set - we
modify
> some BPCS & there are several ORD5 programs that I have told my people are
> just too hostile for anyone without AS/Set to make any headway in changing
> anything to improve productivity for users of these programs.
>
> What I have seen of the modules from SSA to help out the ORD function are
not
> really appropriate to Make to Order, for example the concept of doing
quoting
> that is based on the kinds of things we have made in past for other
customers
> is just too inadequate at 405 CD level, but you might look at the
> Configurable modules available at V6 to see if any of that has relevance
to
> you.  Also your precise corporate needs might be such that the reasons why
we
> said no thanks on some modules might not apply to you, such as EDI &
> Recurring Business.
>
> There are an abundance of 3rd party outfits that have add-ons to BPCS,
many
> of them are related to Customer Orders, and many of those outfits have
people
> participating in this list.
>
> We are using the Customer Order History deal from Crowe Chizek (talk to
Randy
> Merle for details).
> http://www.crowechizek.com/
>
> I had asked my management if we could consider some of the ORD
enhancements
> offered by ISE (ask Bruce Barker) but there seemed to be no one at Central
> interested other than me.
> http://www.ise-indy.com/consult/BPCS/index.html.
>
> Look at the SIGs of people posting stuff here - I checked some out & while
> many BPCS consultants URLs talk about what they can do for us in general,
> very few have specificity with respect to examples of their enhancements.
I
> also checked URLs I found from other sources & while I do not remember if
any
> of these had anything with respect to ORD enhancements, they do have
> specificity with respect to their offered BPCS enhancements.
>
> http://www.unbeatenpathintl.com/services.html
> http://www.nexgeninfo.com/
> http://www.johnson-schley.com
>
> I assume you know that LANSA Smart/Web for BPCS permits someone with any
> standard browser to get at ORD500 or your V6 equivalent to input customer
> orders.
> http://www.midrangesystems.com/breaknewsdisp.asp?ID=3084
>
> But while this might be very helpful to a traditional manufacturer of
> standard stuff, it has less value, except in repeat business of the same
> part, to those of us in which we get a high volume of first time potential
> customers whose initial need is rapid turn-around of a quote based on
their
> engineering prints.
>
> This might be a totally off the wall impractical idea by me, but you know
> that with EDI it is possible to have customer orders flow into BPCS from
the
> EDI format files, assuming we get the right kind of EDI software ... there
is
> lots of cheaper stuff out there that does not interface good to BPCS &
> managers often do not understand the technical trade-offs so they buy
> something that is a piece of garbage in BPCS terms then want to pay
someone
> to interface it, when for less total money they could have gotten a
package
> that already talks to BPCS.
>
> We get lots of customer requirement input via e-mail & fax & other formats
in
> which the customers are using a standard format of their requirements for
> recurring orders & I was thinking that if we had EDI of the quality I just
> mentioned, we could scan in e-mail & fax to a format to create the file
> format of EDI then fake out EDI to receive this as if the customer
> requirements had come via EDI, then use Robot Scheduler for BPCS from Help
> Systems to operate the whole process of taking the customer orders,
whether
> from real EDI or e-mail or fax, into our customer orders, so as to save
the
> human chore of transcribing the data, then checking to see what human
errors
> might have crept in.
>
> http://www.helpsystems.com
>
> I think EDI might be more meaningful at the far end of ORD where there
> sometimes is a need for ASN Advance Ship Notices, but we have recently
> learned how to use Client Access to get any spool file or other related
info
> from 400 to a variety of PC formats, so the people seem to be quite happy
> with a Query/400 summary report of what just got shipped today for a
> particular customer, transmitted to that customer via e-mail.
>
> MacWheel99@aol.com (Alister Wm Macintyre) (Al Mac)
> AS/400 Data Manager & Programmer for BPCS 405 CD Rel-02 mixed mode (twinax
> interactive & batch) @ http://www.cen-elec.com Central Industries of
> Indiana--->Quality manufacturer of wire harnesses and electrical
> sub-assemblies - fax # 812-424-6838
>
> > Subj:  Order entry
> >  From:    RickCarter@holley.com
>
> >  BPCS version 6.1.01 Mixmode   AS400
> >
> >  We have a need for a more defined Order entry ability.  Is there any
other
> >  modules available within BPCS that caters to a 'Make to Order' type
Order
> >  entry process verses the standard Order Entry mode.   I don't know any
> >  other details at this time about my needs other than finding out if
there's
> >  is other order entry modules available.   thanks
>
>
>
>
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