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Gord,

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        > We are currently reviewing our Change Control and Management
options. The 
        > four that have been presented to us are:
      >
        > SoftLanding's Turnover
        > MKS's Implementer 
        > IBM's AS/400 Solution
        > Our own home grown solution (hah hah - but I have to cover it)

        > Could y'all (we have some southern offices) help me? I would like
to hear 
        > from you with pros and cons, experiences with any of the above
etc. All 
      > bricks and bouquets greatly appreciated.

We've been using Implementer and found that as a package is pretty good
although can be a major pain to configure in the first place.
We screwed our set-up by not agreeing a library promotion path and naming
standard kinda thing and as a result we've had problems causing us to bypass
Implementer at times.
Get an expert in and plan your promotion requirements and get some training.

As for the AS/SET side it appears to hook into some of the AS/SET Product
Security section programs that operate behind the scences when you copy from
set to set. (I seen that code ripped out before at a previous site)  Works
ok as far as I can tell.

I don't have any experience of IBM's offering or Turnover so can't comment
on relative merits.

Implementer is pretty neat in that it can handle promotion from Development
AS/400 machine to Live box without you having to do any of that Savf and FTP
or Snads stuff.

Regards
Graham

> ----------
> From:         groyle@cott.com[SMTP:groyle@cott.com]
> Sent:         10 January 2001 16:22
> To:   BPCS-L@midrange.com
> Subject:      Change Management
> 
> We are relatively new to the AS400/BPCS 6.1.01 mixed-mode environment with
> 
> mostly Unix and VMS experience (although we have hired some good long-time
> 
> BPCS developer/analysts). Our development will be in AS/SET for existing
> BPCS 
> stuff and in either AS/SET or RPG/IV for new stuff. We will have two
> AS/400 
> boxes (one for development and one for production) managing the BPCS 
> application with clients in somewhere around 16 offices/plants spread out 
> throughout North America and developers in at least four different
> offices. 
> 
> We are currently reviewing our Change Control and Management options. The 
> four that have been presented to us are:
> 
> SoftLanding's Turnover
> MKS's Implementer 
> IBM's AS/400 Solution
> Our own home grown solution (hah hah - but I have to cover it)
> 
> The leaders appear to be Turnover and Implementer because they can manage
> the 
> AS/SET environment.
> 
> Could y'all (we have some southern offices) help me? I would like to hear 
> from you with pros and cons, experiences with any of the above etc. All 
> bricks and bouquets greatly appreciated.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Gord Royle
> 
> 
> 
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