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Hello, I can safely say that SSA R&D, has absolutely no plans to get rid of AS/SET in version 8.0 BPCS. In the users group, when the person spoke about 'getting rid of AS/SET' they first of all did not say 'we are going to get rid of AS/SET in the next release'. Whomever reported that to this list was either mis-understanding or mis-representing what the speaker said. What they spoke of was in regards to distant future releases, and the point was that there is a possibility in future that some other tool would replace AS/SET. So, this was a statement about potential future direction/investigations which at this point have not been completed. There simply is not enough time to start using some other tool and still get the next release out in time, so everyone can stop worrying ( or in some cases celebrating ) about this. BTW, actually, BPCS IS written in AS/SET (not RPG as someone mentioned). The people who do the coding write it in AS/SET, which is a CASE tool. The generator generates either RPG (for AS/400) or C (for Unix), which is why you won't see us going back to native RPG - we do support more than 1 platform and this allows a common repository (the AS/SET code) to generate code wherever we need it. BPCS runs in RPG and C on the AS/400 (the runtime and some modules such as ECM are written in C) and runs in C on Unix. If you are used to debugging native RPG only, and not AS/SET, likely it will seem strange to debug the generated RPG at first, but you get used to it after awhile. Thanks Genyphyr Novak SSA -----Original Message----- From: kmiller@ssax.com <kmiller@ssax.com> To: BPCS-L@midrange.com <BPCS-L@midrange.com> Date: Thursday, September 14, 2000 3:39 PM Subject: RE: BPCS support alternatives >Martin, > >Is this true? As/Set is going away maybe? > >Other things like this came out of the conferece and hit this list. Like we're >going to charge for source code. Where can users go for OGS other than SSA >etc... I think we need to address these issues but I do not know what is all >planned so I find it difficult to create a response. Is this something we >should work on together? > >Kari > > > > >PR@BPCSPros.com on 09/13/2000 08:22:06 PM > >Please respond to BPCS-L@midrange.com > >To: BPCS-L@midrange.com >cc: (bcc: Kari Miller/SSA/US) >Subject: RE: BPCS support alternatives > > > >Menon: > >I'll send you an offline message regarding this. > >SSA also announced at the BPCS Conference this week that AS/SET may be going >away... > >Ed Zdrok >Advanced Systems and Products (ASAP) >The Experts in the AS/400 BPCS AS/SET RPG >Ed.Zdrok@BPCSPros.com > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-bpcs-l@midrange.com [mailto:owner-bpcs-l@midrange.com]On >> Behalf Of Nirmal G. Menon >> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 10:32 AM >> To: BPCS-L@midrange.com >> Subject: RE: BPCS support alternatives >> >> >> I am trying to evaluate the Product ODW? could you please let me >> know Your >> views Ed >> Menon >> ---------- Original Text ---------- >> >> From: <PR@BPCSPros.com>, on 09/13/2000 9:39 AM: >> >> Dean: >> >> Advanced Systems and Products also provides a REAL Helpline >> solution to its >> client base. Management has affirmed its decision to continue to provide >> support to our BPCS clients regardless of the situation at SSA. >> Our clients >> have been loyal to us over the years, and we will not abandon >> them when the >> seas get stormy. Many vendors chose not to attend the SSA Conference which >> concluded yesterday in Newport. We felt it was important to attend so our >> clients continue to feel secure in the knowledge that someone truly cares >> about their situation. >> >> One point of interest from this conference: The new CEO of "SSA Global >> Technology" indicated SSA may charge for source code to new clients. >> >> Thanks, >> Ed Zdrok >> Advanced Systems and Products (ASAP) >> The Experts in the AS/400 BPCS AS/SET RPG >> Ed.Zdrok@BPCSPros.com >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: owner-bpcs-l@midrange.com [mailto:owner-bpcs-l@midrange.com]On >> > Behalf Of DAsmussen@aol.com >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 10:20 PM >> > To: BPCS-L@midrange.com >> > Subject: Re: BPCS support alternatives >> > >> > >> > Mark, >> > >> > In a message dated 9/11/00 1:25:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >> > mbazer@dynomerch.com writes: >> > >> > > In light of the situation with SSA, has anyone considered >> > alternatives to >> > > OGS? >> > >> > What alternatives are there? I must admit that, at one time, I >> > considered >> > offering to take this function over for them. But _that_ was >> > before things >> > became so "buyout" complicated. Is there an alternative to OGS? >> > I've got >> > plenty of clients that would go with it, if one were available. >> > Most have >> > got _OLD_ "A" BMR's that haven't been taken care of... >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Dean Asmussen >> > Enterprise Systems Consulting, Inc. >> > Fuquay-Varina, NC USA >> > E-mail: DAsmussen@aol.com >> > >> > "A man who claims to understand a woman is bound to do without >> one..." -- >> > Anonymous >> > +--- >> > | This is the BPCS Users Mailing List! >> > | To submit a new message, send your mail to BPCS-L@midrange.com. >> > | To subscribe to this list send email to BPCS-L-SUB@midrange.com. >> > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to BPCS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. >> > | Questions should be directed to the list owner: dasmussen@aol.com >> > +--- >> > >> >> +--- >> | This is the BPCS Users Mailing List! >> | To submit a new message, send your mail to BPCS-L@midrange.com. >> | To subscribe to this list send email to BPCS-L-SUB@midrange.com. >> | To unsubscribe from this list send email to BPCS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. >> | Questions should be directed to the list owner: dasmussen@aol.com >> +--- >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________________________ >> >> Cott - The Leader in Premium Retailer Brand Beverage Innovation. >> _______________________________________________________________ >> +--- >> | This is the BPCS Users Mailing List! >> | To submit a new message, send your mail to BPCS-L@midrange.com. >> | To subscribe to this list send email to BPCS-L-SUB@midrange.com. >> | To unsubscribe from this list send email to BPCS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. >> | Questions should be directed to the list owner: dasmussen@aol.com >> +--- >> > >+--- >| This is the BPCS Users Mailing List! >| To submit a new message, send your mail to BPCS-L@midrange.com. >| To subscribe to this list send email to BPCS-L-SUB@midrange.com. >| To unsubscribe from this list send email to BPCS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. >| Questions should be directed to the list owner: dasmussen@aol.com >+--- > > > >+--- >| This is the BPCS Users Mailing List! >| To submit a new message, send your mail to BPCS-L@midrange.com. >| To subscribe to this list send email to BPCS-L-SUB@midrange.com. >| To unsubscribe from this list send email to BPCS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. >| Questions should be directed to the list owner: dasmussen@aol.com >+--- > +--- | This is the BPCS Users Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to BPCS-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to BPCS-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to BPCS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner: dasmussen@aol.com +---
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