× The internal search function is temporarily non-functional. The current search engine is no longer viable and we are researching alternatives.
As a stop gap measure, we are using Google's custom search engine service.
If you know of an easy to use, open source, search engine ... please contact support@midrange.com.


  • Subject: Re: scrap percentages for MRP
  • From: MacWheel99@xxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 14:30:05 EDT

From Al Macintyre on BPCS 405 CD mixed mode

Capturing information on production scrap, such as cost implications, is a 
separate topic in my opinion from how best to manage replacement of parts 
production & their raw material requirements within an MRP system, such as 
budgeting for extra raw materials aquisition in anticipation of some scrap 
percentage.

You might check out the labor related ITH transactions & whether scrap 
appears in your FLT labor history.  There is a labor ticket number assigned, 
that appears both in the FLT & ITH history transactions, so you could use 
that to link the data involved in any given scrap reporting transaction, 
obtaining performance numbers from FLT & cost data from ITH.

We cope with scrap many different ways & it comes from many different sources 
& reasons, so we do not want MRP to be second guessing an average scrap rate. 
 Long time ago, on BPCS/36 there were parameters to cause MRP to schedule 
extra production based on scrap espectations, but we turned that off because 
the reality is that scrap is lumpy & needs to be dealt with by relevant 
production people when it happens.  Report the scrap, make more of that part, 
perhaps a problem can be repaired, keep track of where the repaired parts are 
supposed to go & include a carbon copy shop transaction, of repair status, 
with the good parts, so the next users will know that repaired quantity is 
coming, from where.  It is a desgin issue for labor transaction forms that 
support a diversity of tracking capabilities.

Our interests have been in determining percentage scrap by work center, 
identifying areas with high percentage scrap that need better machines or 
training or scheduling to permit larger lots without interruption.  Since our 
percentage scrap is generally below 2% & our cost variance actual to standard 
is considerably above that (in some cases our variance is like 300% & are 
currently believed to be primarily in labor rates of sub-assemblies), scrap 
has not factored into our focus analysis of where our cost variances are 
coming from.

One topic is determining whether SFC & JIT reporting & data entry is 
capturing scrap quantities correctly. There was a suspicion that fear of 
finger pointing might lead some people to under report scrap.  We wrote a 
program to look at the BOM of reported scrap then multiply by sample weights 
to get what the actual weight of all the scrap must be by work center, then 
compare it to physical audit of weighing the actual scrap & the numbers 
agreed.

Another topic is easy access of people to what the current figures are on 
scrap percentages by areas of factory.  We have a lot of queries but 
unfortunately not enough people who understand the limitations of query/400 & 
often the people who create a query are different from those who use them, 
resulting in information being misused.

> From: "David Baird/NMT" 
>  
>  We are version 6.1 full cs running on AS400 v4r3.
>  
>  We are looking to find some information on how to capture the cost of scrap
>  within MRP systems. It has been suggested to us that scrap is captured in
>  the bill of materials by inflating the quantity per unit by the scrap
>  percentage. So a component with a quantity per unit of 1 and an average
>  scrap rate of 2% would have a new quantity per unit of 1.02.
>  
>  However this will have implications for the current system of inventory
>  processing and control (which we are keen to avoid!). Is anyone out there
>  currently using or aware of an alternative method? Ideally I think that
>  there should be an additional field separate from the BOM that captures
>  scrap percentages for MRP purposes.
>  
>  If anyone out there can offer any guidance or assistance on this one, it
>  would be very much appreciated.

Al Macintyre  ©¿©
MIS Manager Green Screen Programmer & Computer Janitor of BPCS 405 CD Rel-02 
running on AS/400 V4R3 http://www.cen-elec.com Central Industries of 
Indiana--->Quality manufacturer of wire harnesses and electrical 
sub-assemblies
+---
| This is the BPCS Users Mailing List!
| To submit a new message, send your mail to BPCS-L@midrange.com.
| To subscribe to this list send email to BPCS-L-SUB@midrange.com.
| To unsubscribe from this list send email to BPCS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com.
| Questions should be directed to the list owner: dasmussen@aol.com
+---

As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases.

This thread ...


Follow On AppleNews
Return to Archive home page | Return to MIDRANGE.COM home page

This mailing list archive is Copyright 1997-2024 by midrange.com and David Gibbs as a compilation work. Use of the archive is restricted to research of a business or technical nature. Any other uses are prohibited. Full details are available on our policy page. If you have questions about this, please contact [javascript protected email address].

Operating expenses for this site are earned using the Amazon Associate program and Google Adsense.