AS/400 Sizing -- BPCS-L

Hi Peter & Bob

Bob, Thanks for your specification detail.

Sizing is the good way to know what size of server you need. If we do
sizing process we need to fill some questionnaire. Bob is right "How
accurate that BPCS sizer ?".
Can you inform us how many user do sizing is correct and not ?
We are worry that the size was point is not perform well.

We are planning to change our server from 500 to 720. Regarding to our
affiliate may be you need new license for your BPCS because your serial
number of machine is change. 
Is it right Peter ?

Thanks and regards

Kusman Lim
PT Takeda Indonesia
MIS Department


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Godwin [mailto:bob_godwin@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 7:11 AM
To: BPCS-L@midrange.com
Subject: RE: AS/400 Sizing



Hi Peter

Yes, we did do a Sizing questionnaire in conjunction with SSA and  spent
a 
lot of time trying to get it right (not an easy task). We also spent
some 
time discussing the sizing with IBM.

The company I am working for is in the mining industry which is very 
depressed at the moment, so they don't have money to burn. Since we
can't 
afford an AS/400 with lots of reserve capacity, we can't make a mistake
with 
the sizing.

I guess what we are looking for is some confirmation that the computer
SSA 
recommends after crunching the questionnaire responses through the
modeler 
is going to be somewhere near the mark.

We have contacted a few BPCS users ourselves (none of whom used a
720-2062) 
and the responses we got were mixed.

I appreciate your comment that no two sites are going to be the same,
but we 
figured talking to a site with the same hardware/software config would
at 
least give as an idea of what sort of workload it could handle.

Perhaps a better question may have been "How accurate is the BPCS
sizer?".  
But even then, SSA could rightly point out that there is probably
enormous 
variation in the accuracy of the responses to the sizer questions.

At the end of the day, I think you can only complete the sizer to the
best 
of your ability, talk to some users, and then go with your experience
and 
"gut feel".

Kind regards
Bob Godwin
Godwin Consulting
http://www.godwin.com.au
>From: pgreenfi@ssax.com
>Reply-To: BPCS-L@midrange.com
>To: BPCS-L@midrange.com
>Subject: RE: AS/400 Sizing
>Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:19:21 -0500
>
>Having been watching this string of messages I have to make a comment.
>
>If you are upgrading from an earlier release of BPCS to V6.x you need
to
>contact your SSA or affiliate office to get a full explanation of the
>Sizing process you need to undertake.
>
>Making comparisons with other BPCS installations running the same
version
>will not necessarily help unless the business you are comparing to has
the
>same structure and level of transaction throughput as your own.
>
>Regards,
>Peter
>
>
>
>
>
>"Bob Godwin" <bob_godwin@hotmail.com> on 10/06/99 02:13:03 AM
>
>Please respond to BPCS-L@midrange.com
>
>To:   BPCS-L@midrange.com
>cc:    (bcc: Peter Greenfield/SSA/US)
>Subject:  RE: AS/400 Sizing
>
>
>
>
>
>Hi Kusman
>
>We currently have a 500-2142 rated at 43.9 CPW.  We are planning to go
to a
>720-2062(#1501) rated at 70/420 CPW with PCI bus, 1 gig of memory and
38
>gigs of disk.
>
>Regards
>Bob Godwin
>
> >From: Kusman Lim <KUSMAN@takeda-id.com>
> >Reply-To: BPCS-L@midrange.com
> >To: "'BPCS-L@midrange.com'" <BPCS-L@midrange.com>
> >Subject: RE: AS/400 Sizing
> >Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 11:22:57 +0700
> >
> >Hi.. Bob & Luc
> >
> >Talking to AS/400 Sizing and performance. I am also in concerning.
Bob,
> >Can you give me your specification of your 720-2162. I want to
compare.
> >
> >We use BPCS C/S 6002plf cumMarch98 on AS/400. 9406 500 V3r7. Now have
a
> >performance problem.
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Kusman Lim
> >PT Takeda Indonesia
> >MIS Department
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Bob Godwin [mailto:bob_godwin@hotmail.com]
> >Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 9:37 AM
> >To: BPCS-L@midrange.com
> >Subject: Re: AS/400 Sizing
> >
> >
> >Thanks for your comments Luc. Yes, we are aware that MM requires a
lot
> >of
> >interactive CPW.  That's why we are opting for Interactive card #1501
> >which
> >has a CPW rating of 70, twice that of the base card (#1500).
Hopefully
> >that
> >will be enough.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Luc.Debondt@am.pnu.com
> > >To: BPCS-L@midrange.com, "Bob Godwin" <bob_godwin@hotmail.com>
> > >Subject: Re: AS/400 Sizing
> > >Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:48:54 -0400
> > >
> > >   This is definitely NOT a good choice.  It would be a perfect
machine
> > >   if you would have a BPCS C/S version, but for BPCS MM you need
much
> > >   more interactive CPW.  With feature code #1501 you only have 35
> > >   interactive CPW.  You need a much higher feature code (= more
money)
> > >   or a BPCS C/S version.
> > >
> > >
> > >______________________________ Reply Separator
> > >_________________________________
> > >Subject: AS/400 Sizing
> > >Author:  "Bob Godwin" <bob_godwin@hotmail.com> at Internet-America
> > >Date:    30/9/1999 17:43
> > >
> > >
> > >We are currently running BPCS V3.0.04 (and prototyping V6.0.04 MM)
on
> >an
> > >AS/400 Model 500-2142, with V3R7.   SSA has advised us to upgrade
to a
> > >Model
> > >720-2062 (Feature code#1501), with V4R4, before we go "live".  Is
> >anyone
> > >running BPCS V6.0.04MM on this model AS/400?  If so, could we phone
you
> >to
> > >compare notes?
> > >Kind regards,
> > >Bob Godwin
> > >Godwin Consulting
> > >www.godwin.com.au
> > >
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