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Re: justifying RDi when WDSCi 'still works'



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Yes, you're right. You generally can automate processes to eliminate
manual data entry. We do it all the time, and users really appreciate
it.

But there are times you can't...as you mention. Those situations are
still part of modern businesses operations. The number of employees a
business happens to have working in those kinds of situations depends on
the nature of the business.

I see UI flexibility as positive feature of the iSeries. You can develop
three-tier browser pages for users where a GUI increases productivity,
but you can also develop client-server 5250 green screens for users
where a fast text-based UI increases productivity. How many systems
offer you both?

Kelly


-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of BMay@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:05 AM
To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] justifying RDi when WDSCi 'still works'

Yes, the 5250 display can allow a user to type a large amount of data
quickly. But any time I find a user entering that much data, I always
do
an analysis of where the data is coming from. 90% of the time, they are

entering data from a report from another system or a spreadsheet from
another department.

So I start an automation project. Whether EDI, XML, pulling data from
the
Manufacturing system to feed to the accounting system, etc., you can
usually eliminate most of the data entry, IMHO.

Brian May
Project Lead
Management Information Systems
Garan, Incorporated
Starkville, Mississippi

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We have users that need to enter large amounts of data in short amounts
of time. They don't even look at the screens when they enter the data.
These users love the speed of the 5250 green screens.

I don't think browser pages can ever match 5250 screens for speed. The
addition of a web server tier and the necessity of painting each new
page adds a little time, and that little amount of time can add up for
heads-down data entry folks.

However, I also don't think high speed data entry should be used to
justify keeping all users on 5250 screens. I wish IBM modernization
efforts would not focus on switching from green screens to browser
pages. Both UIs have a place in modern business practices. Modernization
should be having the ability to create the right UI for the right job.

Kelly

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Dean, Robert
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:48 PM
To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] justifying RDi when WDSCi 'still works'

I think the fact that the GUI development tools are so much more
productive than the green screen tools really highlights the advantages
a properly conceived GUI can bring over a green screen. If these
benefits can be realized for the developers, why can't they be realized
for the business community?

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Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] justifying RDi when WDSCi 'still works'

I occasionally struggle with the paradox that I feel the need to develop
in
WDSC/RDi, but I'm using it to develop 5250 applications. I mean, if I
need
GUI, then don't my application users? I think its not that I need GUI,
but
that I need something better than SEU.






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