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RE: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the diffe rence!!!)

  • Subject: RE: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the diffe rence!!!)
  • From: Mark Walter <mwalter@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:20:51 -0400
  • Organization: Hanover Wire Cloth
 
I don't think RLU is all that unfriendly, it's not just the same as SDA. It 
would have been nice if SDA and RLU used some if not most of the same 
conventions.

-----Original Message-----
From:   Rob Berendt [SMTP:rob@dekko.com]
Sent:   Tuesday, April 11, 2000 9:47 AM
To:     RPG400-L@midrange.com
Subject:        Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the 
diffe   rence!!!)

I've heard that they've redone that.  I haven't tried the
redone.  In the past it earned the name Really Lousy Utility.




dbryant@banpharm.com on 04/11/2000 08:33:55 AM
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Subject:        Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the 
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Have you used RLU lately?  It is absolutely GREAT!!  O specs (ugly), might 
as
well be an RPG-II program.
With RLU, no worries about end positions, page overflow, line spacing or 
even
knowing the field lengths. With RLU, you can quickly center a field. You 
can use
the REFER option for RLU to get the field attributes for you. You can copy, 
move
and delete fields with a quick function key sequence. Even highlight fields 
and
underline (you can even use indicators to control the different functions
available). But most of all I love the fact that RLU will output your 
TODAYS
date and time, and the page number with NO RPG coding at all.   Also you 
can
print a "Sample" prototype report to see how your report looks on paper.
RLU is cool!!!

IMHO.....




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very well said! I agree!

From:               "Bale, Dan" <DBale@lear.com>
To:                 "'RPG400-L@midrange.com'" <RPG400-L@midrange.com>
Subject:            external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's 
the
diffe
     rence!!!)
Date sent:          Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:35:02 -0400
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Really don't mean to start a holy war here <g>, but...  IMNSHO:

External printer files - BLEAAHHH!  If it's used in only one program, which
is the case for 99.95% of all printer files I've ever come across, then 
keep
it in the RPG source!

Granted, had IBM's braindead RLU been something closer to what RDA (by
BugBusters???) is, then I might have formed a different opinion ten years
ago.  Then again, since RDA allows you to choose between creating printer
DDS specs or RPG O-specs, who knows?  There's really not a whole lot you 
can
do in DDS that can't be done in RPG O-specs for _most_ printer output.

Honestly, though, it really isn't an "ease of design / development" issue
with me.  For me, it's an "ease of maintenance" issue, since I do much more
maintenance than new development.
Internal: One source member. External: Two source members.
Internal: No confusing where the printer file source is; it's right there.
External: Ever been in a JBA shop? 'nuf said.
Internal: One edit session, one compile.  External: Two edit sessions, two
compiles.
Internal: When RPG compile error occurs, you just need to look for errors 
in
the RPG source.  External:  When RPG compile error occurs, you need to 
check
the RPG compile listing, oops - not there, now go check the printer file
DDS, make corrections, recompile DDS, recompile RPG.

All that said, I always follow the shop standards.  I can do printer specs
either way.

Jon, please indicate why you think "it is just better and safer to describe
these things externally."

- Dan Bale

> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Jon.Paris@halinfo.it [SMTP:Jon.Paris@halinfo.it]
> Sent:   Saturday, April 08, 2000 9:08 AM
> To:     RPG400-L@midrange.com
> Subject:     Re: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the difference!!!
>
> PS. I don't think printer files have _anything_ to do with using them in
> multiple places any more that display files do - it is just better and
> safer to
> describe these things externally.
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