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  • Subject: Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the diffe rence!!!)
  • From: "Nelson C. Smith" <ncsmith@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:23:28 -0400

The designers of RDA did do exactly that, which is why it is such a great
product.  Zero learning curve.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Walter" <mwalter@netrax.net>
To: <RPG400-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 2:20 PM
Subject: RE: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the
diffe rence!!!)


> I don't think RLU is all that unfriendly, it's not just the same as SDA.
It
> would have been nice if SDA and RLU used some if not most of the same
> conventions.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Berendt [SMTP:rob@dekko.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 9:47 AM
> To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the
> diffe rence!!!)
>
> I've heard that they've redone that.  I haven't tried the
> redone.  In the past it earned the name Really Lousy Utility.
>
>
>
>
> dbryant@banpharm.com on 04/11/2000 08:33:55 AM
> Please respond to RPG400-L@midrange.com@Internet
> To: RPG400-L@midrange.com@Internet
> cc:
> Fax to:
> Subject: Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the
> diffe rence!!!)
>
>
>
> Have you used RLU lately?  It is absolutely GREAT!!  O specs (ugly), might
> as
> well be an RPG-II program.
> With RLU, no worries about end positions, page overflow, line spacing or
> even
> knowing the field lengths. With RLU, you can quickly center a field. You
> can use
> the REFER option for RLU to get the field attributes for you. You can
copy,
> move
> and delete fields with a quick function key sequence. Even highlight
fields
> and
> underline (you can even use indicators to control the different functions
> available). But most of all I love the fact that RLU will output your
> TODAYS
> date and time, and the page number with NO RPG coding at all.   Also you
> can
> print a "Sample" prototype report to see how your report looks on paper.
> RLU is cool!!!
>
> IMHO.....
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> very well said! I agree!
>
> From:               "Bale, Dan" <DBale@lear.com>
> To:                 "'RPG400-L@midrange.com'" <RPG400-L@midrange.com>
> Subject:            external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' .
What's
> the
> diffe
>      rence!!!)
> Date sent:          Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:35:02 -0400
> Send reply to:      RPG400-L@midrange.com
>
> Really don't mean to start a holy war here <g>, but...  IMNSHO:
>
> External printer files - BLEAAHHH!  If it's used in only one program,
which
> is the case for 99.95% of all printer files I've ever come across, then
> keep
> it in the RPG source!
>
> Granted, had IBM's braindead RLU been something closer to what RDA (by
> BugBusters???) is, then I might have formed a different opinion ten years
> ago.  Then again, since RDA allows you to choose between creating printer
> DDS specs or RPG O-specs, who knows?  There's really not a whole lot you
> can
> do in DDS that can't be done in RPG O-specs for _most_ printer output.
>
> Honestly, though, it really isn't an "ease of design / development" issue
> with me.  For me, it's an "ease of maintenance" issue, since I do much
more
> maintenance than new development.
> Internal: One source member. External: Two source members.
> Internal: No confusing where the printer file source is; it's right there.
> External: Ever been in a JBA shop? 'nuf said.
> Internal: One edit session, one compile.  External: Two edit sessions, two
> compiles.
> Internal: When RPG compile error occurs, you just need to look for errors
> in
> the RPG source.  External:  When RPG compile error occurs, you need to
> check
> the RPG compile listing, oops - not there, now go check the printer file
> DDS, make corrections, recompile DDS, recompile RPG.
>
> All that said, I always follow the shop standards.  I can do printer specs
> either way.
>
> Jon, please indicate why you think "it is just better and safer to
describe
> these things externally."
>
> - Dan Bale
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:   Jon.Paris@halinfo.it [SMTP:Jon.Paris@halinfo.it]
> > Sent:   Saturday, April 08, 2000 9:08 AM
> > To:     RPG400-L@midrange.com
> > Subject:     Re: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the difference!!!
> >
> > PS. I don't think printer files have _anything_ to do with using them in
> > multiple places any more that display files do - it is just better and
> > safer to
> > describe these things externally.
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