Re: No "u" or "ur" PLEASE! (was CPYTOPCD)

James,

I understand most of the acronyms and use them.  But "u" and "ur" are not
acronyms, they're just lazy or, perhaps, "hip" (think "the artist ?!?!? formerly
known as Prince").  Per the high cost mentioned by your Japanese friend, they
better not be on _this_ list, what with original posts still being quoted in
their entirety several reply generations later!  ;-)

Sherry,

I did, in fact, recognize that AKK's primary language may not have been English.
However, AKK's use of "Experienced  programmer" and "expectations were somewhat
higher" indicated to me that "you" and "your" should easily have been expected
to be in his/her spelling vocabulary.  Like you, I do not expect perfect English
in what is really a global forum.  But I would like to think that professional
people will put forth at least a minimum of effort to make legible their
questions and/or responses.

No offense was taken and, certainly, none intended on my part.  My intent was to
persuade the participants on this list to keep it professional and legible.  All
of us are learning here; I've been in the IBM midrange for 16 years now and
being on this list (as well as the midrange-L) has been a humbling experience.
About the only time people get unruly on this list is when the person asking
doesn't RTFM (Read The F****** Manual).


StpOffSbx Option(*JmpRun) (IBM convention for Stepping Off Soapbox, Jumping &
Running),
- Dan Bale

"James W. Kilgore" <qappdsn@ibm.net> wrote:

About 4 years ago I first got started on this whole "internet" thing and, to
this
day, still have a hard time trying to figure out some of the shorthand.  I
responded
to a post that ending with YMMV and stuck my foot in my mouth by asking, what
does
that mean? Your Move M... V...? You Make Me Vomit? I was informed that it meant:
Your Mileage My Vary.  Webster (how coincidentally ironic) needs to create a new
dictionary!

As I understand it's a leftover from the "old" days of 300 to 1200 baud
connections.  When characters meant time.

That was until a few month's ago when a friend of the family visited from Japan
and
told me about their cost to receive email.  Characters count.  He pays, to get
his
email, about what you or I would pay for a long distance phone call. Per minute.
On
top of his phone charges. Per minute.

So I've learned that posting in cyber shorthand is a courtesy when it's
broadcast to
unknown members of a list.

In keeping with IBM's naming conventions, I'm going to drop the vowels <g>

Jms W Klgr

"Sherry McMahon" <smcm@frontiernet.net> wrote:

I think I was giving AKK the benefit of the doubt in assuming English was
his second language and thought he did doing pretty darned good with it.  As
someone still trying to master this language my hat is off anyone who can
successfully tackle a second, third or fourth.  And I was waiting for your
reply to his question.  I have only five years of experience and get very
uncomfortable when I'm treated as the senior programmer.  I consider myself
still at entry level because I have so much to learn yet.  This mailing list
is a wonderful source of information and an asset to me in my work.  But
I've noticed that some on the mailing list come down pretty hard on those of
us who don't have the level of experience the majority of you have.  I don't
say this by way of criticism but just trying to say, bear with us, what may
be silly, no-bainer questions to someone of your experience is usually
something we need to know but have no one else but those on this list to
ask.  There I go assuming again, that I'm not the only one in the position
that books, the internet and this mailing list are my only sources of
solving my AS/400 problems.

This was not meant to offend anyone. Please don't take it as that.

Sherry McMahon





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