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Chris,

I agree with all of the below (which is one reason I repeat it), except for
one point.  I plan to do two follow-ups, on the iNation list, probably
tomorrow or the next day (if nothing happens...;-)

You're too modest...

"I'm writing a little more about stuff like this in my opinion I'm
submitting to David for the IMO thing. We'll see if I can be clear and
opinionated at the same time. ;-)"  I hope david publishes this, as I'm
REALLY looking forward to seeing it.  As there are few who are: a) ***as
opinionated*** ;-D b) as clear-thinking as you...  Not "strokin' your ego"
either.


jt

| -----Original Message-----
| From: midrange-nontech-admin@midrange.com
| [mailto:midrange-nontech-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Chris Rehm
| Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 11:42 AM
| To: midrange-nontech@midrange.com
| Subject: Re: Linux
|
|
| >
| >
| >| is not a Microsoft product. Until I am no longer forced to buy any
| >| Microsoft products, I will not buy any Microsoft products unless forced
| >| to. Linux is easy to get, inexpensive (to free), easy to install and
| >| run, has many applications available for it, and (most
| important)Just my
| >| little one person protest.
| >
| I just want to point out that something happened to that paragraph above
| when I clicked on "send." There was a sentence (I don't recall what it
| said) in the beginning of it where it now says "is not a Microsoft
| product" and the "is not..." part was at the end right after "(most
| important)" and before "Just my". I don't know where the bug is that
| mangled it, but I even looked in my "sent" folder and that one is
| mangled, too. But I proofed it before sending and it wasn't mangled then.
|
| >Very laudible...  If I wasn't so lazy, I'd move to another
| platform.  I got
| >heavily involved in PCs (putting them out in each of the stores)
| about the
| >time of Windung 3.0...  (PC software actually ran on OS/2, but
| IBM lost that
| >battle...)
| >
| OS/2 is the best desktop OS I've used. It was (is) rock solid. I had to
| have a little reminder on it so I'd reboot once in a while (I tried for
| every week or so, but didn't always get around to it) because I thought
| there might be some boot time housekeeping. There were lots of good
| applications and it ran a lot of Windows software. It was everything
| that XP promises to be but without the big security holes (and with a
| history of actually delivering rather than just promising). If the DoJ
| hadn't bent over at the last minute and had actually forced MS to
| publish their API and IBM had used it to implement 32bit Windows in
| OS/2, I'd have forked over the money and formatted this hard drive on
| day one. Not out of brand loyalty or even because of my distaste over
| Microsoft, just because I want to be able to take my PC for granted like
| I used to back in the OS/2 days.
|
| >But I recall Zeitler saying (more-or-less) that they're providing Linux
| >because that's what the market wants.  Not so much because he
| saw it as the
| >be-all and end-all...
| >
| The problem with OS zealots is that they have trouble seeing this. IBM
| implementing Linux isn't IBM saying, "This is better than FreeBSD" or
| whatever. It is IBM saying, "Here's something we see that we can use to
| keep Microsoft from controlling this little market segment over here."
| Linux gets a lot of free publicity, that is good for IBM. It has a
| reputation that IBM cannot have (underdog, little guy makes good, etc.).
| It is valuable as a server platform for performing all the tasks that PC
| servers are good at.
|
| I'm writing a little more about stuff like this in my opinion I'm
| submitting to David for the IMO thing. We'll see if I can be clear and
| opinionated at the same time. ;-)
|
| >My gripe with Linux is the leadership of the movement, more than the
| >platform itself.  I read someplace (don't recall where) that some folks
| >think OS-X is the end of Linux-on-the-desktop...  I tend to think that
| >FreeBSD is more stable than Linux, is a better run organization.
|  Don't know
| >enough about this stuff, though.
| >
| >Fact is.. Linux gets all the glory (again, due to it's
| leadership), and it
| >exists on the iSeries...  So if Zeitler can't ignore the desires of the
| >market, I don't know that I should.  My views are, obviously, still in
| >flux...
| >
| Well, I don't think you can trust "a movement." Linux is fine, FreeBSD
| is probably fine, too. OS X has the advantage of being a part of a
| company's revenue stream. To me, that is something I can trust. When a
| company sees an item as being important to their profit margin, then you
| can start to predict the behavior around that item.
|
| --
| Chris Rehm
| javadisciple@earthlink.net
|
| Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one
| that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. 1 John 4:7
|
|
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