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There will be a more Q&A webinar on Wednesday 9/6.
I really suggest viewing the COMMON webinar first, ASAP, so you have time
to think it over prior to the Q&A one.

COMMON webinar:
https://learn.common.org/products/the-latest-with-ibm-i-subscription
Q&A webinar:
https://ibm.webex.com/webappng/sites/ibm/webinar/webinarSeries/register/b5896475d7f74f5fbbb1f270b42916b9

On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 2:48 PM Greg Wilburn <
gwilburn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Agreed... but when you paid over $20,000 for a license and nearly $5,000
per year SWMA (DB2 Web Query), it's a hard pill to swallow if they come
back wanting an annual subscription that exceeds the SWMA.
What was the $20K for?

On the other hand, if the subscription is at or below the SWMA that would
be OK.

I've signed up for the webinar... but I may go check out the link (thanks
Vern).

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2023 12:43 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: IBM will withdraw the ability to acquire non-expiring IBM i
entitlements for the P05 and P10 software tiers, effective March 26, 2024.

A couple of thoughts about that.


1. A one-time license can be regarded as a capital expenditure. A
subscription is an operating cost. It may well be advantageous to the
enterprise to have the licensing as a subscription cost (taxes,
amortization of permanent license, etc.)
2. I don't see anything wrong with IBM making some revenue. If the
revenue stream becomes inadequate, the platform will be retired.


On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 10:39 AM Patrik Schindler <poc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello Rob,

Am 29.08.2023 um 13:34 schrieb Rob Berendt <robertowenberendt@xxxxxxxxx
:

There will no longer be *PERM keys for IBM i software.


https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/announcements/sww-selected-non-expiring-i-license-offerings-as-transforms-i-business

"As the IT industry is moving toward licensing software in a subscription
model, the IBM i business is responding to the requests of clients and
partners as their businesses follow suit. Subscription licensing offers
clients predictable and consistent payment options while maximizing the
ability to remain current with their technology."

Using "everybody else does likewise" is just laughable. As if IBM needed
to care what others do. They could just offer both options.

I believe this is only to maximize revenue to IBM to benefit their
shareholders. As almost always nowadays.

Just my $0.02.

:wq! PoC



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