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RE: New IBM Navigator for i

After launching the New IBM Naviagator for I, why don't all the options show on the left panel.
You need to double click on the "Active" for them to appear down the left hand side.
You would think that they should all appear on the first or home page.

Paul

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Subject: RE: New IBM Navigator for i

For V7R4, I was missing PTF group SF99662-14, PTF SI77320.

That explains it.

Paul

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What PTF group do you have applied to both?

7.4
PTF group SF99662-13 had PTF SI77119 which directed port 2001 to the new Navigator.
PTF group SF99662-14 quickly came out with SI77320 which well, RTCL (Read the cover letter)

https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/ptf/SI77119
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/ptf/SI77320

7.3
PTF group SF99722-32 had PTF SI77120 with directed port 2001 to the new Navigator PTF group SF99722-33 quickly came out with SI77321 which, see the cover letter below

https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/ptf/SI77120
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/ptf/SI77321
PTF's on group ptf
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/6198711

Basically the "correcting" ptf says:
CORRECTION FOR APAR SE76300 :
-----------------------------
For http://hostname:2001, it is still re-directed to Heritage Navigator. For New IBM Navigator for i, please visit http://hostname:2002/Navigator directly.


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V7R4 - hostname:2001 resolves to New Navigator.
V7R3 - hostname:2001 resolves to Old Navigator.

Is this expected behavior or is something not WAD?

Paul

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I believe it's 2001 to 2019 that should be open as previously. Not all are used but are 'reserved'. 2002 should have been open but I see customers closing down ports in the list because they aren't used CURRENTLY. :-)
- DrF

On 9/28/2021 3:01 PM, Steinmetz, Paul via MIDRANGE-L wrote:
All PTF groups matched.
It was a firewall issue, port 2002, at a minimum, had to be opened up.
Is there an updated port list for the New IBM Navigator for i?

Paul

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The port 2001 works fine for me to get to the new navigator.
All I did was put on the latest groups and ignored completely those individual PTF's listed.
PTF Group Level Status
SF99741 8 Installed
SF99740 21238 Installed
SF99739 60 Installed
SF99738 22 Installed
SF99737 5 Installed
SF99736 1 Installed
SF99704 15 Installed
SF99675 2 Installed
SF99668 13 Installed
SF99667 3 Installed
SF99666 7 Installed
SF99665 11 Installed
SF99664 24 Installed
SF99663 7 Installed
SF99662 13 Installed
SF99661 7 Installed
SF99659 12 Not applicable
SF99654 1 Related group
SF99653 10 Related group
SF99652 6 Related group


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Sadly this is incorrect. IBM Chose NOT to make New Nav the default. Use:

http://<name.or.ip.here>:2002/Navigator

to access new navigator.

- DrF

On 9/28/2021 11:18 AM, Jim Oberholtzer wrote:
Assuming you apply the PTFs you would use 2001 just like normal.

If you need the older version on the left menu second from the
bottom,
(Bookmarks) you'll find a link to the old version: on mine it says:
http://yoursystemaddress:2004/ibm/console/logon.jsp
<http://172.29.100.70:2004/ibm/console/logon.jsp>
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On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 10:00 AM Steinmetz, Paul via MIDRANGE-L <
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

What port should be used for accessing New IBM Navigator for i

Paul

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To get the new Nav on V7R4:

PTF: SI76981
SF99662 - 13 <https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/6198659> tbd
SF99704 - 14 <https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/6198679> tbd

V7R3L:
PTF: SI76982
SF99722 - 32
<http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=nas4SF99722>
tbd
SF99703 - 25 <https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/6198677> tbd

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On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 7:38 AM Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

His big mistake:
APYPTF 5770DG1 select(*ALL)
Group PTF's always cross multiple products.

I just noticed his APYPTF.
When I put on my group ptf's it was on a test lpar. After I
ordered them I loaded them into the same directory as my existing
ptf image catalogs from two weeks ago. Then I did the usual steps
to get the image catalog ready. Then I did INSPTF LICPGM((*ALL))
DEV(OPTVRT01)
INSTYP(*DLYALL) Notice *ALL instead of just one lpp.
Then I quiesed the system and IPL'd it. All was good.

You can see numerous LPP's mentioned in the group at:
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/6198659
Granted, there are no detailed instructions here.
Nor does the discussion on installing PTF groups at the Knowledge
Center discuss installation
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/i/7.4?topic=fixes-groups


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h
=438b0784514c1757bd202125ca4db8b0abdb021e-9d2fd91bb8e68b497b69185ed
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SI76981 was already Temporarily applied.

Paul

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Paul,
I had a similar result.

I ordered the PTF group for the HTTP server,
and loaded via 8-Install ptf package, the applied via
APYPTF 5770DG1 select(*ALL)


I put a tkt in with IBM, and they said I also needed to APYPTF
5770SS1 SELECT(SI76981).

after I applied that, I got to the signon screen.

On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 3:22 PM Steinmetz, Paul via MIDRANGE-L <
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

V7R4 test LPAR, New or old I nav won't load after applying latest
groups and IPL.

What should I check?

Paul

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I did a fix central request only for the four groups which were
different in group_ptf_currency. No extra individual ptf's were
ordered.

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I was under the impression you were required to load a PTF to get
the new Navigator to respond to port 2001, did IBM just include it
as a
default?

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 2:12 PM Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

It took less than just a few minutes for my coworker to ask
"where's the AFP overlay import function from the old Navigator?".

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Subject: New IBM Navigator for i

I just put on the new group.
Pointed my browser to http://myibmi:2001 like I've always done
and got the new setup.

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