RE: V6R1 to V7R1 i5/OS upgrade questions -- MIDRANGE-L

Pete,

Thanks again the info on the hosted partitions. Without them, I couldn't have created nor tested the DSLO images.
I currently have two NWS, one to build the image the other to test an install/upgrade of an image.

Once there setup, it so easy to bounce back and forth simply by shutting down the LPAR, vary the one NWS off, vary the other on, IPL.

It took some to move the image around though, 1 to 2 hours per move.

P07CLNT *OPSYS INACTIVE contains the DSLO image
P07CLNT2 *OPSYS INACTIVE used to test the DSLO image

Paul

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 4:11 PM
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Subject: RE: V6R1 to V7R1 i5/OS upgrade questions

Probably good then.

Usual suggestions to find any commands you customized, etc...

Rob Berendt
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
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Date: 03/21/2014 04:01 PM
Subject: RE: V6R1 to V7R1 i5/OS upgrade questions
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Rob,

Reviewing my logs, test looks good, all LLP restored and all PTF
loaded/applied from the image.
INZSYS did not occur until after I IPL'd.
Not finding my INZBRM, this was supposed to be auto submitted.

CPC3D86 Licensed program installation process completed successfully.
CPC3DDB Automatic installation completed successfully.

CPI3D81 Initialize System (INZSYS) started.
CPC37A9 Initialize System (INZSYS) processing completed successfully.

Paul

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Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 3:01 PM
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Subject: RE: V6R1 to V7R1 i5/OS upgrade questions

Paul,

When upgrading to the same release you should follow the instructions
"Replacing Licensed Internal Code and IBM i of the same version and
release" at
http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v7r1m0/topic/rzahc/upgradesameversion.htm

This was initially created for people upgrading from V5R4M0 to V5R4M5 or
6.1.0 to 6.1.1. It could also be applicable to those upgrading from beta
code to current code. Or those upgrading from one resave to another (if
you just really wanted to do it this way).

The steps there are suggesting a 'Manual' IPL and whatnot.
I did notice those steps leave out any LPP's. Which, if your goal is to
get all PTF's is not going to make you happy if you're missing a PTF for
5770ST1 for example.
There's a possible check - DSPPTF 5770ST1.

Rob Berendt
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
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Date: 03/21/2014 02:39 PM
Subject: RE: V6R1 to V7R1 i5/OS upgrade questions
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I just tested automatic V7R1 upgrade using my latest V7R1 combined PTF
DSLO image to a hosted partition that already contains V7R1.
Was this a valid test to confirm an image?
PWRDWNSYS DELAY(60) RESTART(*YES) IPLSRC(*IMGCLG) IMGCLG(V7R1OSPTF)

Paul

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From: Steinmetz, Paul
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:45 AM
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Subject: RE: V6R1 to V7R1 i5/OS upgrade questions

Same machine, different LPARS.
If *no, will the V7R1 OS upgrade/install stop and ask for agreements to be

accepted.
If *yes, am I assuming they will be accepted as part of the image.

I also just discovered that you can include the license keys as part of
the image.
It must be named QSYS/QALZALPKEY
DSPLICKEY PRDID(*ALL) LICTRM(*ALL) FEATURE(*ALL) SERIAL(*ALL)
OUTPUT(*LICK
EYFILE) LICKEYFILE(QSYS/QALZALPKEY) LICKEYMBR(QALZALPKEY)
Output file QALZALPKEY created in library QSYS.
Member QALZALPKEY added to output file QALZALPKEY in library QSYS.

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DrFranken
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:31 AM
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Subject: Re: V6R1 to V7R1 i5/OS upgrade questions

I always think of it this way:

If the media is being used on the same machine as it's being created on
then I choose no. Technically I've already done that for that machine.

If it's going somewhere else, then yes. Oddly this is usually then done by

me but I always ask the customer "Do you accept the IBM License terms so I

can accept the agreements?" Never had anyone say "No." But then usually
they say something like "We'll have to accept the agreements in order to
see what's in them!" :-)

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com
www.iInTheCloud.com

On 3/20/2014 8:45 AM, Steinmetz, Paul wrote:

Another DSLO question.
When building the DSLO image, License Acceptance Required, should this

be *yes or *no?

Paul

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Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 8:24 AM
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After some special work yesterday, and a rereading of the manuals, I

believe that you're right, the INZSYS should kick off after the PTF IPL.

They even say something like "if you're some sort of freaking idiot and

are not going to put on any cume after upgrading your OS then start the
INZSYS, otherwise it will automatically start upon the IPL from the cume".

Well, I suppose people like Pete and Larry who upgrade from custom

media with all the latest PTF's on it, might be the exception.

Rob Berendt
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From: Pete Massiello - ML <pmassiello-ml@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 03/19/2014 11:33 PM
Subject: RE: V6R1 to V7R1 i5/OS upgrade questions
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I do it all the time. Let me give you an example. I have special
PTFs to apply before applying the latest cumulative, so I do a CHGIPLA
start back in restricted, load the special PTFs, and then IPL. Now, I
let the system load all the new PTFs, and IPL. Perfect example.

I always apply my PTFs first before doing the IPL which kicks off

INZSYS.

Pete

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:27 AM
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Subject: RE: V6R1 to V7R1 i5/OS upgrade questions

I do not think that CHGIPLA to bring the system up restricted during
an upgrade is recommended. When do you have it fire off the INZSYS?
After the cume IPL?

Rob Berendt
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to: 2505 Dekko Drive
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From: Pete Massiello - ML <pmassiello-ml@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 03/18/2014 11:11 PM
Subject: RE: V6R1 to V7R1 i5/OS upgrade questions
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Jobs remain in the job scheduler between OS releases.

Perhaps the best way is to do a CHGIPLA, and start the system up
restricted. This way you only have the console up and you can do what
you need after the upgrade (Like Apply PTFs, or do a full backup before
returning the system to the users). I wrote an article last month in

System admin Tips and Techniques newsletter on just this:
http://www.itechsol.com/newsletters/2014-02.html

Pete

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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steinmetz, Paul
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 2:57 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: V6R1 to V7R1 i5/OS upgrade questions

1) Can future scheduled jobs remain in the jobq across a V6R1 to V7R1
i5/OS upgrade?
2) Is the simplest way to prevent AJS (Advanced Job Scheduler) jobs
from running during or after the upgrade is to hold or end the AJS
monitor as opposed to holding or omitting next run of individual jobs?

Thank You
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Paul Steinmetz
IBM i Systems Administrator

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