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Good point. Carbonite is even worse. Did you know that medical insurance
companies regularly put your records on www.box.com?
Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl J Novit
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 9:24 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: cloud backup services - Dropbox
You should be very careful with anything you put on Dropbox.
Look at their T &C's. I believe they have the right to do anything they
want with data stored in Dropbox, though it would be harder to use i data
vs. PC files.
Thanks,
Carl Novit
Vice President
Extension: 7708
From: DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 07/26/2013 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: cloud backup services
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sounds kinda cool but let me ask a question:
So my system just got flooded and IBM brought be a brand new system.
I've reloaded my savsys and IBM libraries and am ready to restore my
users/ programs/ data.
What are the steps to do that from DropBox with your software?
- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis
www.frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com
www.iInTheCloud.com
On 7/26/2013 9:21 AM, Tim Bronski wrote:
If you're looking for something that will let you do more transactionalWe currently have around 750GB used space on a 1.2TB system. We do a full
backups rather than a full DR then you might want to have a look at our
Dropbox app for IBM i. It's a free product that lets you move data
between your IBMi and Dropbox. We're currently connecting it with our
SAVE product that let's you do encrypted backups so you'll be able to
save and restore directly from Dropbox.
www.arpeggiosoftware.com
On 7/26/2013 2:14 PM, Mike Cunningham wrote:
It's good to see we have considered the same issues as we talked here.
user library backup and a full IFS (we store scanned documents in the IFS)
backup nightly. We do not do only changed objects. Makes restore so much
easier. We do a full system save monthly. If we made this change I would
still do the system save and have it local, off site in a vault. I would
probably still keep a tape of the nightly backup locally for quick access
for non-disaster restores and instead of driving the tapes to the vault
daily, replicate the backup to the cloud.
automatically to our SPHiNX.Option 1 below sounds like what I was considering.
-----Original Message-----
From: DrFranken [mailto:midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 7:14 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Cc: Mike Cunningham
Subject: Re: cloud backup services
<Vendor Response>
At iInTheCloud.com we offer two cloud based backup options.
1- Back up to a local Crossroads SPHiNX VTL which is then replicated
restores.- Advantage is fast backups with a local copy for fast
completes.- Automatic off-site copy as soon as the backup
partition in our cloud. Backups are then done on our system and you have2- Use PowerHA or Mimix or MaxAva or ... to replicate data to a
no outage whatever.
cross the wire and they do so all day long as they occur.- Advantage is data is ALWAYS off site and current there.
- Advantage is bandwidth is much less as only changes
backups are with us!- Disadvantage is a local restore is hard because the
the cloud:</Vendor Response>
Nathan's response pointed out one issue with backups to
out what to back up each night. Change 1 row in a 500,000,000 row tableBandwidth! You need a bunch in most cases unless you can really figure
and you get to send the entire table with that night's backup. If you were
replicating to a remote server or partition ONLY that one change
copied off-site you got NOTHIN off site. Partial doesn't do you much good.goes across so its done instantly.
ALSO COnsider that until the ENTIRE backup has been
With replication you're current off site almost continuously.
you are how much data are you sending nightly and what service are youJust some points to ponder.....
- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis
www.frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com
www.iInTheCloud.com
On 7/25/2013 10:46 PM, Mike Cunningham wrote:
Is anyone using cloud backup services for iSeries nightly backups? If
using?
Mike Cunningham
VP for Information Technology Services/CIO Pennsylvania College of
Technology www.pct.edu<http://www.pct.edu/>
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