Re: Classes for IBMi/iSeries? -- MIDRANGE-L

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"Trevor Perry" <trevor@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

DRsquare,

You are like the grumpy old grandfather who doesn't get out much. He
sees
the world in his own neighborhood, and has to tell the kids that is how
the entire world really is. And a smiley face does not make it right.
Maybe to him that is the whole world, but outside in the real world,
the
use of the new IBM branding is a little more common than your backyard.
Mainly because there are people out here who are up to date, and not
living in some fabulous past. I.T. is a little faster moving than
AS/400
pundits wished, but it has moved far beyond that glorious platform.

The point is not the name, but the concept. Windows can still run DOS,
but
you don't call it DOS. AS/400 could run S/34, S/36 but you never called
it
by those names. IBM i on Power is what you buy from IBM, and while it
can
run OS/400 applications, it just is not an AS/400. Besides, you cannot
run
Watson on an AS/400, and what a powerful marketing tool that is for our
platform - and yes, IBM does market this platform. Maybe they stopped
marketing the AS/400 when they stopped selling the AS/400.

For your benefit, IBM built a new platform called Power Systems. They
sell
the best business hardware platform on the planet - Power Systems. It
runs
IBM i. Calling it by another name - an old name or your own particular
made-up brand, is simply incorrect and pandering to the naysayers and
competitors who call you old and out of date.

Certainly, there are people running on AS/400 servers with OS/400.
There
are iSeries customers running OS/400 and IBM i. There are System i
customers running i5/OS and IBM i. And yes, they often struggle with
the
"name". However, the next box they will upgrade to will be a Power
Systems
server, running IBM i. If you tell them they have to keep using the
same
"400", they may be happy for a short time to avoid having to face
change,
but in the fast paced world of I.T. you would be best served to offer
them
something modern.

Coming to you from the real world.
Trevor

On 9/27/11 9:56 AM, "Don" <dr2@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

CLEARLY someone it out of touch with what's REALLY going on in

industry

and
what the REAL WORLD is calling this box... Thanks to IBM's TOTALLY

INEPT

attempts at marketing, this box is known IN INDUSTRY by several names.

If

someone has a problem with that, I suggest they get back on their
meds...or
complain at IBM for their TOTALLY INEPT marketing practices and

product

naming conventions.

:)

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 11:08 AM
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Subject: Re: Classes for IBMi/iSeries?

Sorry, I was going by the subject line. I thought that was created by
the
OP:
Re: Classes for IBMi/iSeries?

Rob Berendt
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From: Trevor Perry <trevor@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion

<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: 09/26/2011 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: Classes for IBMi/iSeries?
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Rob,

The OP did not ask. The message to which I replied offered it.

Trevor

On 9/26/11 10:32 AM, "rob@xxxxxxxxx" <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

People, read the small print on Trevor's response:
IBM does not provide AS/400 training any more..

The OP didn't even ask for AS/400. They asked for IBMi/iSeries. For
this, IBM does offer training. See some of my earlier emails.

Rob Berendt
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From: Trevor Perry <trevor@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion

<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: 09/23/2011 06:21 PM
Subject: Re: Classes for IBMi/iSeries?
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx

IBM does not provide AS/400 training any more..

The IBM Academic Initiative has curriculum for colleges that is IBM i

and

Power Systems
Related. See here for details:
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/university/academicinitiative/

And, the list is much much longer than "hardly any":
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/university/ibmi/schools.html

On 9/23/11 5:17 PM, "Don" <dr2@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Bob

Hardly any colleges or trade schools teaching AS/400 in any form...

DR2

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob P. Roche
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 3:15 PM
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Subject: RE: Classes for IBMi/iSeries?

There are also some colleges still teaching. I think the one I went

to

in

northern Illinois cancelled their courses, But I know Gateway tech

in

south eastern Wisconsin still teaches courses.

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