Re: IBM i hosting "in the cloud"

[Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Mihael,

0.02 is enough to get started anyway.

I know IBM is listening, and I know there is a strong desire to get past 
some of the issues I have mentioned.  Stay tuned, while this thread will 
go dormant, there are action items being followed up on that may open a 
door for getting it done.  Right now patience is a virtue we all need on 
this specific topic.

Economics question:  Would $100.00 US/month on a 4 month minimum for a 
system at V5R4/V6 or V7 with your space being in a iASP be reasonable?  
Would $175.00 US/month for a 4 month minimum and a small LPAR be 
reasonable?  If not say so, if yes OK.  I am trying to find a price 
break point (near zero margin = no profit) that would make it work.

To honor the list (as this is really not technical anymore) please reply 
privately with your answers.  Let's let this thread die for a bit.  When 
Larry and/or I have something to report we'll let you know.

Jim Oberholtzer
CEO/Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects, LLC


On 5/14/2010 12:24 AM, Schmidt, Mihael wrote:
> ... and especially when it comes to open source projects (which are a hobby of mine) I don't want to spend hundreds of dollars (euros) for a box. This is where IBM must step in and offer at least a platform/host on which I can develop some  open source software. I don't know why IBM does not recognize that this would be very beneficial to them.
>
> My 0.02 â
>
> Mihael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DeLong, Eric
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:50 PM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: RE: IBM i hosting "in the cloud"
>
> Which is why IBM need to do this...  Building a development community (Rational CafÃ's, DeveloperWorks, etc) is great, but if the little guys can't afford to buy/lease a box to work on, then it means nothing...
>
> I'd like to participate in some open source projects, but I cannot because I do not have a host to develop on.  I can't use my employer's hardware to host personal development projects...  The timeshare services do not offer current OS, tooling, etc.  How would a timeshare pay licensing for WDS (SEU/SDA/RLU seat charge)?  IBM is the only supplier that could pull this off.
>
> -Eric
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Oberholtzer
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:18 AM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: Re: IBM i hosting "in the cloud"
>
> The problem with putting up such a cloud is not the cost of acquisition
> of the hardware, rather the software.  I have looked into the
> requirements for putting up a modest size cloud solution to rent out in
> less than year long increments.  Hardware, doable, but until IBM i, and
> AIX  and more importantly the appropriate Licensed Program Products can
> be leased from IBM on a short term basis, the cost recovery model falls
> apart quickly.
>
> Having spoken to some folks at IBM about the situation I am not holding
> my breath that a licensing model that makes this type of service viable
> is imminent in any way.
>
> Jim Oberholtzer
> CEO/Chief Technical Architect
> Agile Technology Architects, LLC
>
>
> On 5/12/2010 8:57 AM, elehti@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>    
> > Aaron,
> > Sounds like a business opportunity to offer.
> > Who of us will become the premier IBM I hosting provider offering that
> > solution?
> > EricL
> >
> >