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rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Of course, having a team of IBMers on your system on a daily basis trying to diagnose a simple flipping save and having to do
2 IPLs within a week is a real hoot. Luckily it's just the
programmer's LPar.

Oh, if your save abends during a save while active you can forget
saving that library active until after the next IPL. "changes"
are recorded off to the side and it gets really confused when the
save abends like that. Claims the objects being processed during
the save 'may' be damaged but they're really not. The IPL clears
them up.


Presumably "abends" means an "abnormal end" from the perspective of the OS [code] itself rather than a "/normal/ end due to error" from the perspective of the user? Such that the "abend" is a defect, which if the defect did not exist, then the message that was issued to warn about the status of the objects possibly being damaged plus that an IPL is required to clear the problem, may be at least somewhat acceptable.? If however the save request ends with /normal/ error conditions\scenarios such as "object could not be allocated" or "media not ready" such that if the message was issued to warn about the status of the objects possibly being damaged, that would hopefully be diagnosed by IBM as a defect.?

Additionally, if the message about "object may be damaged" due to an internal OS sfw error having led to the SWA failure was issued, then the message is probably accurate, such that the IPL activity does not necessarily always just clear them up; i.e. YMMV.? The system storage management will have started tracking changed pages to the objects [IIRC, by redirecting the save activity to a backup copy of the pre-changed segment], so if the abnormal end itself or something between then and the IPL might also mess up that tracking [maybe only loss of main memory\storage], then the object or its data may not survive well.? I would have to think too hard to remember how things worked to understand the if\how a scenario might end with damaged object(s).

Regards, Chuck

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