RE: SAVSYS & Break Messages - V5R4

I to have experienced this. Years ago. We were using Help/Systems RSA(I
think)...The unattended system backup agent that is part of Robot/Save.
Anyway, the unattended backup paused with the break message just as it
continues to happen today.

I remember Tom Huntington came down to Birmingham to diagnosis the
problem. It was funny that it did not happen while he was present.

WHY? The programmer responsible for Robot had immediately pressed enter
on the console when the break message appeared and Tom and our boss were
not looking at the panel. I was there and mentioned it to Tom.


James Salter, you will (hopefully) find this funny, the person I am
referring to was Dan Southworth.....God rest his soul..... I really miss
Dan. Taught me a lot about Robot.

Bentley Pearson
Vice President - Information Services
Southland National Insurance Corporation
1812 University Blvd
Tuscaloosa, Al
35403
205 345 7410
bpearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark S. Waterbury
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 10:09 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: SAVSYS & Break Messages - V5R4

Hi, James:

You could add a command in your start-up program (QSTRUPPGM) to send an
e-mail to certain people (including you?) to notify you that the system
is "back up again" ... automatically, after each IPL. Also, you could
write a small CL program to send this notification e-mail, and invoke
this program as a "prestart" job for certain critical subsystems, to
notify that you know when certain subsystems have been restarted.

That way, if you have a normal outage (such as for back-ups), and you
don't get the e-mail telling you the system is back UP again, you can
then start investigating a little sooner ...

Also, absent an HMC, you could look at using "Operations Console" that
ships with ClientAccess, and then access that PC remotely. Or, if you
use TwinAx consoles, you could use a 5250 emulator card in a PC, and use

something like Symantec PCAnywhere or VNC to be access this "console"
remotely from any PC. Also, be aware that not all 5250 emulator
cards/software support this, because some emulators (e.g. IBM
ClientAccess PC5250) require TCP/IP or an SNA router to connect. You
need an emulator card and software that directly emulates a hardware
twinax 5250 terminal.

HTH,

Mark

Salter, James wrote:
Yes, it has happened recently to me.

We use the TAATOOL GO SAVE2 function to schedule this on weekends.

I was unsure whether or not this was a TAATOOL problem or in IBM
problem.

I have verified the system reply list entries, (you may wish to verify
that you have this as a reply list entry) yet it still did not answer
the message.

The partially saved library was an iTERA HA Library, so I am not sure

if

this was an iTERA issue as well.

Unfortunately this is real hard to resolve without going through it a
time or two & yet next week you could not even have partially saved
libraries, so you would not even be able to determine if it was

actually

fixed or not.

To complicate matters, I have a V6R1 environment where the same type
thing happened. The QCTL subsystem did not start up.

If you do not have an HMC or OPS Console, then you will have to drive

to

the office. Fortunately, I can get into the HMC, take over the

session,

& start things up remotely.

This does sound like an IBM issue to me.

Unfortunately with the system down, there is no notification to you

that

it is down. It would be really nice to get a notification instead of
figuring it out on your own.

Thanks.
James Salter
Systems Programmer
American Cast Iron Pipe Company
phone (205) 325-3033
fax (205) 307-3833



date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 07:43:09 -0600
from: "Cyndi Bradberry" <CyndiB@xxxxxxxx>
subject: SAVSYS & Break Messages - V5R4

List,

We attempted an unattended SAVSYS this weekend. Our default is to not
break for messages during the back-up.

Define Save System and User Data Defaults
Type choices, press Enter.
Devices . . . . . . . . . . . ULT Names
Prompt for commands . . . . . N Y=Yes, N=No
Check for active files . . . . N Y=Yes, N=No
Message queue delivery . . . . *NOTIFY *BREAK, *NOTIFY
Start time . . . . . . . . . . 23:15:00 *CURRENT, time
Vary off network servers . . . *NONE *ALL, *NONE
Unmount file systems . . . . . N Y=Yes, N=No

More...
F3=Exit F12=Cancel



And yet, the system sat and waited at a break message, CPF3777 to let
us know that there were 2 libraries partially saved ! I discovered

this

Sunday morning when I tried to VPN into my system and TCP was not
running. I ended up making a trip to town to answer the message and
allow the system to complete the save.

In talking to my system administrator today, he said this was the

third

time this halt had happened. He had thought he hadn't set the message
queue properly before and so had triple checked things this time.

Has this happened to anyone else ? I'm off to search thru the APAR's

&

PTF's.

TIA,
Cyndi B.
Boise

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