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Very true Jon.

I have 2 main ISV's I deal with on a regular basis. Both are now using RPGLE
programs, but most of it is just converted from RPG III source members. I
hesitate to consider it RPG IV when I still see MOVE being used and
indicators over %FOUND() or other BIF's.

The ISV's don't really want to take the time to do it right. They just want
the fast solution of running their old code through a fancy CVTRPGSRC.
That's not a fix, it's just a bandage.

Also, I think IBM has given us options for a GUI. They had Visual Age, which
no one really adopted. They have HATS (I'm not personally a fan), they have
WebFacing. There are WebSphere solutions, JSF, JSP, servlets, etc. Now they
even have EGL. There are options, it just takes some extra/different
programming.

James R. Perkins

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