I'm not sure I understand your suggestion for a new VENDORS-L list. It kind of sounds like you want to relegate discussion of non-IBM licensed products to a separate list and let you promote EGL on the established lists <smile> Wow, talk about an unlevel playing field! That would work for you?Yes it would. Of course a lot of that is because your statements above make some pretty strong assumptions. I find those assumptions troubling enough that I'll detail my views for the community and you can decide for yourselves how you feel about it. As for me, this will be clear enough that I won't need to post anymore. If anyone has questions, send them to me privately because I really don't want to take any more bandwidth with my thoughts on the issue. One big message that you can easily Next past <smile>.
I agree with you though; the lists need guidelines and moderation.The guidelines are there, and the moderation is only needed for a handful of individuals, one of which I realize is me. But I'm getting better <smile>.
One problem with the new EGL list is the name. Who really cares about EGL (the language)? How many debates to you envision between EGL, RPG, COBOL, C, CL, etc.? IIRC, the language elements are a trivial part of the package.Huge disagreement here. EGL is fundamentally as important as Ruby on Rails or maybe even Java itself. Only time will tell whether the community adopts it, but if you take the teime to really understand it you won't be able to minimize the engineering of the language. Not only that, but EGL is one of the few things about the i that actually is known outside the i community. The mainframers know what EGL is, and the UML community knows about it too. If anything, playing in the EGL space gives the i some credibility in the broader community.
Isn't it really the package that matters (RDi and RBD)? I think it would be a good idea to rename the list to RDi & RBD to give it more scope and attract new members. Aside from that, I think it would also be appropriate to discuss RDi & RBD on Web400 because most folks will use it for Web application development.I'll reiterate my position: RUI probably belongs on the WEB400 list, as does discussion of JSF tooling in RBD, especially when discussing it in comparison to other web technologies. EGL discussion of all types could also go in the EGL list. RDi, on the other hand, belongs the same place as SEU and PDM: on the Midrange-L list, or on the appropriate language list (RPG or COBOL) when specific to that language.
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