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Does that help?

Yep, that clears it up nicely. Where did you find this information?

This is starting to pan out to a level I can equate and understand. I
purchased my 520 six months ago for around $13k with 600/30CPW, 35GB HD (x2
but mirrored), 2GB RAM, with no user restrictions (EUE or UE).

Using this URL for the following paragraph: http://tinyurl.com/yuzdtp

Now I can get an entry level 515 for $8k with 3800/800 CPW, 70GB HD, 1GB
RAM, and 5 UE's - correct? Then IF I need web (i.e. EUE's) I can do the $4k
add-on which brings me up to about $12k.

Comparing those two, I would need to add an additional $1k for another stick
of memory to match my config of RAM here:
http://mowyourlawn.com/blog/linkto/systemiconfig.pdf. That would put me at
$13K roughly for the 515.

The 515 absolutely kicks my machines butt in the CPW area and HD space; and
being that I don't have a lot of UE needs (strictly development machine) I
wish I would have waited 6 months to buy my System i5 ;-)

Too bad they didn't do the UE's as concurrent sign-on's vs. total count of
profiles that exist. Really creates a mess of a situation for those that
may have a different profile for every remote SQL access (i.e. JDBCUSER,
DOTNETODBC, ODBCQRY1, ODBCQRY1) or all the different profiles that have been
created for any number of other programmatical purpose. On another note,
when you install PHP it creates/uses two profiles: ZENDADMIN and ZENDTECH,
so I guess PHP just cost me $500? (2 users at $250 as per Pete Heldgrens
email)

Curious, does anybody know what the penalty is if these standards (i.e. EUE)
are not abided by?

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Larry Bolhuis
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:06 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: 515 and 525 user licensing

No the 520 is priced as it always has been, no change to user based there.

Let me see if I can clear some fog on this user based thing.

There are three types of users:

1) Regular users. /No matter how they connect /these users count against
licensed users. This includes employees and contractors but not customers,
partners etc.

Regular users count against entitled users. Period.

2) External users. Such as customers, partners etc. These users are
activated by purchasing a $4K 'External User Entitlement'. These are anyone
who authenticates to a web application such as a bank customer checking an
account, a customer placing an order.

External users do NOT count against entitled users. 'External User
Entitlement' is required if you have ANY External users.

3) 'Not a user.' Such as casual web browser users who do not identify
themselves at all who may view company information, sales literature, etc.

'Not a user's do not require any Entitlements.

Does that help?

- Larry

albartell wrote:
So then let me ask this question. Are the new 520's also subject to
this (being that it sits between 515 and 525 as far as literal numbers
go)?

I think this will be a great COMMON question (like others have stated).
Hopefully somebody that is well spoken will step up to the mic and
articulate the question/frustration.

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com


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