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Geezers and twinax



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Hi:

I think a distinction needs to be made here. There are elders, and there 
are doddering elders. Both deserve respect. There are geezers, and then 
there are old geezers. At 57 I think I am a geezer, but not an old one. I 
walked 5 miles in the Morton Arboretum yesterday, after work, and did it 
in street shoes in 1:20. And that was after part of my day was spent going 
up and down stairs and a stepladder, at relatively high speed, helping fix 
a hardware failure that knocked out every last network switch in the 
building.

We have a few doddering 3196 dumb terminals scattered about the production 
area, both of our consoles are twinax based, and a key machine in the I.T. 
department is also twinax. Everybody else runs iSeries Access or 
Wintronix. Guess which connections to the AS/400 stayed up? [grin]

In case anyone is interested, the switches were knocked out when I tried 
to trace the single standard gauge grounded extension cord that was 
plugged into one of our larger UPSs which had started beeping. The cord 
was unusually warm, obviously a concern. Halfway down the wire rack I gave 
a gentle tug to get the cord out where I could see it a bit better, and 
all six HP ProCurves went dark. The pull was just enough to finish the job 
of the input plug failing on the *single* cheap power strip that was 
handling our entire network infrastructure. (Installed by a "former 
administration".)

When everything is set up right, both hardware and software, then IP-based 
stuff is fine. When you are like us, an alternative is very useful ... 
sometimes, it is just true that Twinax Is Our Friend.

Darrell

Darrell A. Martin  -  630-754-2187
Manager, Computer Operations
dmartin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 11/13/2006 04:49:01 PM:

ROFL Joe - I agree that it was interesting. But Aaron really needed 
help directed at his situation, without the noise. I love twinax for
consoles too - but then i am a luddite at heart! It just seemed that
the talk of bricks and bats and all were taking up his time 
unnecessarily.

And Rob does need to show more respect to his doddering elders!

LOL
Vern

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Joe Pluta" <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 

From: vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxx 

And all this talk of twinax is just pointless when you do not have a 

twinax card. 

I don't know about that. Discussion of twinax isn't germane to Aaron's 

situation, but the comment that stirred a lot of the pot -- 
specifically, 
Rob's opinion that twinax is both archaic and unreliable -- deserved 
the 
opportunity for rebuttal. It's pretty clear from the comments that us 
old 
geezers and our silly KISS principle still have some kick left in us. 



Joe 

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