Re: Say Hello to IBM System i5!

Yet given all that, it's the interface that leaves the biggest
impression.  5250 is killing the AS400/iSeries/i5 (and these name
changes aren't helping).


Keith



michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> And another point...if you think about improvements and changes to a
> system, I don't think there's a system out there that's had more
> changes than an iSeries. Using virtualization from the mainframe and
> UNIX shells from UNIX and the ability to host multiple OS's (ala VM),
> the iSeries has had more changes than any system I know of, except
> maybe for mainframes.
> 
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: Say Hello to IBM System i5!
>> From: Jerry Adams <jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Thu, February 02, 2006 10:41 am
>> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> I realize that Unix is an operating system and that SQL is a language, 
>> but I recall hearing about both of those back in the 70's when I started 
>> out. 
>>
>>
>> My point being:   Unix and SQL are both legacy products.  Which would 
>> make Oracle, SQL Server, AIX, Linux (a Unix wannabe), and their ilk all 
>> legacy.
>>
>>
>> That is not to say that any of these have stood still; to the best of my 
>> knowledge there have been incremental improvements to each.  Just as 
>> there have been incremental improvements to the AS/400 -> iSeries -> i5.
>>
>>
>> So the next time some eunuch (pardon me, Unix) 'guru' or SQL (any 
>> variety)  wiz kid throws the word 'legacy' into a conversation regarding 
>> the iSeries, just look 'im in the eye and with a condescending look say, 
>> 'You're sh*****g me.  Right?'
>>
>>
>> And, just for the record, Bell Labs invented Unix, and IBM invented 
>> SQL.  Not Oracle, not Microsoft, not Sun.  And who leads the world in 
>> patents again?  It sure ain't Oracle, or Microsoft, or any of those wiz 
>> kids' favorites.  I don't have any idea how many have been used in the 
>> iSeries, but certainly quite a number.
>>
>>
>>      * Jerry C. Adams
>> *iSeries Programmer/Analyst
>> B&W Wholesale Distributors, Inc.* *
>> voice
>>      615.995.7024
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>>      615.995.1201
>> email
>>      jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>
>>
>> fbocch2595@xxxxxxx wrote:
>>
>>> It's easy to lump all IBM machines, whether mainframe or midrange, as 
>>> legacy, don't you think?  
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Keith Carpenter <carpcon@xxxxxxx>
>>> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 09:21:54 -0800
>>> Subject: Re: Say Hello to IBM System i5!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The large consulting firms who recommend new systems just call it legacy.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeff Crosby wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>>>> Whatever the name, 
>>>>> seems I always end up having to use "AS/400" as part of the 
>>>>> definition. 
>>>>>      
>>>>>
>>>> Not to mention that even the Rochester IBMers refer to it as AS/400 to this
>>>> day.  They are in conversations with me this very morning.
>>>>
>>>>    
>>>>
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