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We're getting a lot of the same issues with our LUG.  Seems that many 
programmers are (borrowing a term from "Jerry McGuire") "paycheck 
players".  You may be able to get them to an educational seminar during 
the day if their boss picks up the tab, but you'd play heck getting them 
to attend a session at night, even if their boss picks up the tab.  Heck, 
I've seen people practically have to get dragged to take an all expenses 
paid trip to COMMON.

Rob Berendt

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