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I believe they need Performance Tools to get WRKSYSACT. Used to, anyway. But if they have it, the output can also go to a *FILE. Of course, be careful about using up DASD. ;-) -------------- Original message -------------- > Al, > > I suggest opening a second terminal session, or even better, someone local to > the machine doing it, on to WRKSYSACT, and just let it sit there (or set to > auto-refresh) and then when the sleepy period occurs maybe this display would > show something going on. Perhaps the run priority of 1 would trump whatever > it > is that is causing it and allow you to identify the offending task. > > -Marty > > ------------------------------ > > date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 03:48:21 -0500 > from: Al Mac > subject: AS/400 falls asleep > > We are on AS/400 model 170 OS/400 V5R1 mixed mode, with more people > connected via PCs than via twinax. > > We recently moved our AS/400 to our main factory in the boonies, and made > corporate offices HQ the remote site. There's a few odds & ends not hooked > up yet, such as the ECS line. I opted to remain in the city, and commute > to the AS/400 occasionally. Since the move, there are some unexpected new > problems to struggle with. > > There are actually several things going wrong, such that when we have an > incident, it is seldom obvious what is the cause this time. > > One problem is, it seems to me the AS/400 at random moments decides to go > to sleep. > Some days I see this happen several times in the same day. > Some days I go whole day and not see it happen. > > At the remote site on twinax, I am looking at the input inhibited X, and > the only thing I did was try to scroll in SEU to another page, or select a > report to change, nothing major ... now that this has happened several > times, I know to work on something that does not require keying on the 400, > and in 5 minutes it clears & is Ok. > My co-workers are on Client Access, and they have some kind of time out > that disconnects them, when this happens. Other folks on VPN from home or > travel, same deal. Phone to other site ... is 400 sluggish for you right > now? Oh yes, they having similar problem. > We check in the "computer communications room" and see that the Perle says > communications is normal with the AS/400. > > Then when the 400 "wakes up" I go right into GO STATUS and > WRKACTJOB response time data, WRKPRB, DSPLOG for last 1/2 hour, check > messages on QSYSOPR and other places, and I cannot find a smoking gun. We > habitually run only one JOBQ, our disk space is at about 62% used, there's > about 1500 reports in spool, the largest being 50,000 pages of error > messages from a runaway job I had to kill. > > Seems to me the AS/400 is ignorant of the fact that it had a nap. > I have exhausted interrogating "the usual suspects" and now I looking over > WRKSYSVAL stuff I not looked at in eons, such as DSPJOBTBL, and I looking > for the manual on STRSST to see if there is some error log incident rate > that not rise to the level of WRKPRB noticing, but when the AS/400 is busy > with whatever errors, it is not busy catering to the humans. > > We're too cheap to have any of the performance tools. > > Since shortly before the move, there has been a small reduction in the > total # of users, with a marginal increase in the number of sessions per > work station. I figure the overall demand on AS/400 resources has not > altered dramatically in many months. Printers is one area I should perhaps > figure out how to check how much of a drain, if any ... we have ups and > downs in how many concurrent printers talking to the 400, and currently we > are on the way up. However, right after 400 wakes up, I have checked > printers, and not seen much activity there associated with 400 nap time. > > There has been no significant program changes in the last few weeks, that I > might think contributes to this ... I am tuning some new reports. There > was one that used to take 30 minutes & I changed how the files accessed, > shaving 3 minutes off the run time. > > Years ago we had someone run a certain query on-line, that joins several > files of over a million records, but I would always hear from the culprit, > because his work station also locked up, and in fact the entire 400 would > lockup until we could kill the session in question. I will have to teach > someone at the formerly remote site how to do this, and God help us if the > culprit is on the main console. > > I used to get MIDRANGE_L many years ago but the volume of traffic was more > than I could stand ... in the interim there has been a regular famine of > other good places to get answers, and I am experiencing a growth in > challenges that need answers that I suspect MIDRANGE_L would be a good > place to ask. > > - > Al Macintyre http://www.ryze.com/go/Al9Mac > BPCS/400 Computer Janitor > > -- > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. >
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