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Re: Education

Hello All,
I set aside 3 - 5 % of my gross salary for education. I have been in consulting for a few years, and I am going back to W2 employment. Even if your employer doesn't pay for education you need to "educate yourself." You will be a better employee, and if need be you will be able to move out of a non-educational shop. Negotiate education in your hiring contract. 

John R. Morency
(763) 546-2137  Home
(763) 258-7603  Cell
jrmorency@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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  1. Re: Debugging a Program Called from Batch (rob@xxxxxxxxx)
  2. Re: iSeries Education (was iSeries vs. zSeries) (rob@xxxxxxxxx)
  3. RE: Preventative Maintenance For AS400 (phil Kestenbaum)
  4. RE: Debugging a Program Called from Batch (Brian Piotrowski)
  5. Printer problems (Grizzly M)
  6. Re: Preventative Maintenance For AS400 (rob@xxxxxxxxx)
  7. Batch printing of Network Information (Graap, Ken)
  8. Re: Batch printing of Network Information (Bryan Dietz)
  9. RE: iSeries Education (was iSeries vs. zSeries) (DeLong, Eric)


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message: 1
date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 14:38:05 -0500
from: rob@xxxxxxxxx
subject: Re: Debugging a Program Called from Batch

Did you try
http://faq.midrange.com/data/cache/7.html

"How do I debug... in batch?"

Rob Berendt
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Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





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Hi All,



Is there a way to debug a program that is run from a batch job?  We have
a few programs that will submit a batch job that runs a series of RPG
programs.  One of these programs I would like to debug, but when I
compile the source, start debug and submit the batch job, the program
will whip through everything without stopping on the specific breakpoint
in the RPG program.



So within the CL batch job we have:



Program A

Program B

Program C

Program D <-- I would like to debug this program

Program E



The only way we have found to get around this problem is to put a
breakpoint within the CL program on the call to the RPG program we want
to debug (for our example, Program D).  When it hits this point, we stop
processing and then manually run the RPG program (the previous programs
in the Batch job (Prog A - C) need to run because they generate the data
needed for this RPG program).



Anyone have any ideas?



Thanks!



Brian.



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Simcoe Parts Service, Inc.

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message: 2
date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 14:45:01 -0500
from: rob@xxxxxxxxx
subject: Re: iSeries Education (was iSeries vs. zSeries)

Larry,

I used to work for a consultant.  Their philosophy towards education was
that if they trained you it just made you more marketable and you'd leave
the company.  They even earned free educational credits for peddling
S/36's and didn't use it to train one of the "on-the-bench" people in
basic S/36 operations because of that fear.  Wouldn't you know, a week or
three later we had a company wanting to pay consultant rates for someone
to do operations for a week because their operator was in the hospital.
But we had no one available.  (This gal was the one who referred me to the
head hunter that got me my job here.)

They're bankrupt now.  Go figure.  For the longest time after that I felt
that consultants were all that way as far as education.  Even though I've
had other occasions from other firms doing business here that reinforced
my opinion, I do realize that not 'all' consultants are that way.

Rob Berendt
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Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
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Kendallville, IN 46755
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message: 3
date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:49:06 -0400
from: "phil Kestenbaum" <pkestenbaum@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: Preventative Maintenance For AS400
It might be interesting if you could list tasks that you do on NT, and then we could match it on the ISeries for you. This would not necessarily be all you need to do but a good learning point. 
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Subject: Preventative Maintenance For AS400


I am an NT native that admins an AS400 on the side.  I have done so for
several years now.  I am hoping other admins can share with me what
preventative measures should be used to protect the performance of the
system.



I am aware of "RCLSTG SELECT(*DBXREF)".  All suggestions are appreciated.



Thanks



Ryan

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message: 4
date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:50:39 -0400
from: "Brian Piotrowski" <bpiotrowski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: Debugging a Program Called from Batch

Great, thanks to everyone who responded.

Brian.

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Subject: Re: Debugging a Program Called from Batch

Did you try
http://faq.midrange.com/data/cache/7.html

"How do I debug... in batch?"

Rob Berendt
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Group Dekko Services, LLC
Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





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Hi All,



Is there a way to debug a program that is run from a batch job?  We have
a few programs that will submit a batch job that runs a series of RPG
programs.  One of these programs I would like to debug, but when I
compile the source, start debug and submit the batch job, the program
will whip through everything without stopping on the specific breakpoint
in the RPG program.



So within the CL batch job we have:



Program A

Program B

Program C

Program D <-- I would like to debug this program

Program E



The only way we have found to get around this problem is to put a
breakpoint within the CL program on the call to the RPG program we want
to debug (for our example, Program D).  When it hits this point, we stop
processing and then manually run the RPG program (the previous programs
in the Batch job (Prog A - C) need to run because they generate the data
needed for this RPG program).



Anyone have any ideas?



Thanks!



Brian.



-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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Specialist - I.T.

Simcoe Parts Service, Inc.

Ph: 705-435-7814 x343

Fx: 705-435-6746

bpiotrowski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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message: 5
date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:02:03 -0500
from: "Grizzly M" <grizzlym@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Printer problems

I posted something last week that generated 0 results so I'm going to
try it again now that I've figured out a few things. Here's my problem.
I recently changed the way a printer that is connected to our iSeries.
It used to be connected via twin ax using a print box (print server).
The print box (print server) was then connected to the printer. I
changed the printer to be a *LAN attached printer using TCP/IP and an
Ethernet line to the printer. The problem I'm having is no matter what I
do I can't seem to get the report to print in the same font that it used
to. The old font was taller, but not wider and the character '|' was
used to print vertical lines. The old report used a *SCS data stream,
but I had to change the new report to use *AFPDS to set the font margin
and to duplex. I noticed the old device description wasn't using host
print transform and by default the *LAN device description does. I'm
guessing the print server handled the transformation of the data
including setting the font. Can anyone familiar with print servers tell
me if there is a default font setting?



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message: 6
date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:08:23 -0500
from: rob@xxxxxxxxx
subject: Re: Preventative Maintenance For AS400

I would go to
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/pubs/html/as400/infocenter.html
and study the following:
Systems management
 Work Management
   Manage daily work
Systems management
 Basic system operations
Systems management
 Work Management
   Manage daily work
     Monitor system activity
       Manage iSeries performance

Run the following on a weekly, or monthly basis:
SBMJOB CMD(RTVDSKINF)
and after that is done (may take hours), run
PRTDSKINF RPTTYPE(*SYS)
(that doesn't take much time).
Save your copies.  Do comparisons to see where your growth lies.  Prompt
on PRTDSKINF for other reports you may run.

Fix maintenance strategy
http://www-912.ibm.com/s_dir/slkbase.nsf/docnumber/14854405?OpenDocument

Rob Berendt
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I am an NT native that admins an AS400 on the side.  I have done so for
several years now.  I am hoping other admins can share with me what
preventative measures should be used to protect the performance of the
system.



I am aware of "RCLSTG SELECT(*DBXREF)".  All suggestions are appreciated.



Thanks



Ryan

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message: 7
date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 14:15:03 -0700
from: "Graap, Ken" <keg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Batch printing of Network Information
I know I can select any of the options from the following menu and then use 
F6 to print ... Does anyone know how to print these information via a
submitted command???


                      Work with TCP/IP Network Status
                                                           System:   S02
Select one of the following:

    1. Work with TCP/IP interface status
    2. Display TCP/IP route information
    3. Work with TCP/IP connection status



Kenneth

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AS/400e Professional System Administrator
NW Natural (Gas Services)
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Phone: 503-226-4211 x5537
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message: 8
date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:21:17 -0400
from: Bryan Dietz <BDietz@xxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Batch printing of Network Information

Ken have a look at my NSTAT utility.  Works on V5R1 and up.

http://home.columbus.rr.com/jbmmdietz/iseries.html



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Bryan Dietz
Aktion Associates




midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 08/24/2005 05:15:03 PM:


I know I can select any of the options from the following menu and then

use

F6 to print ... Does anyone know how to print these information via a
submitted command???


                       Work with TCP/IP Network Status
                                                            System:   S02
Select one of the following:

     1. Work with TCP/IP interface status
     2. Display TCP/IP route information
     3. Work with TCP/IP connection status



Kenneth

****************************************




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message: 9
date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 18:15:50 -0500
from: "DeLong, Eric" <EDeLong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: iSeries Education (was iSeries vs. zSeries)

Hi Larry,
Yeah, I'd have to agree that the state of affairs is pretty sad.... I'd be 
hard pressed to qualify why the employers I've worked for have chosen to
ignore education.  Perhaps its the geographical regions where I've worked
(West and Central Texas, then DFW), or perhaps its the mom and pop culture
in some of these shops...  Maybe it's just that they want something for
nothing... Undeniably, this has been one of the most frustrating aspects of 
MY career.

I've always driven myself hard to learn as much as I can about the things
that affect my life. As always, work related skills are paramount, since I 
hope to be employable until such time as I choose to retire, so I've never
had a problem with self-directed learning.  I do feel that most employers
will gladly let me spend my own time, money, and effort to learn these
things, even though this effort benefits the company (as well as myself).

I wonder if modern life has erased the proposition of "education as
investment".  In this day when you must have a degree to apply for a
janitorial job, the focus isn't on "what you know".  It's just the diploma
that counts....  Oh well, back to my corner...



Eric DeLong
Sally Beauty Company
MIS-Project Manager (BSG)
940-297-2863 or ext. 1863



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Eric,

Wow, that is sad...

What is it do you think that makes your employers want to keep you in
the dark? They must understand that IT is one of the fastest changing
fields out there. Would they go to a doctor or dentist who still did
things with 20 year old skills and tools? I think not. Yet they pay you
and purchase hardware and software but don't want you to know how best
to utilize those assets?  Managers and companies need to understand that
COMMON, IBM Technical Conference, iSeries DevCon, Local Lugs, as well as
distance learning opportunities are all Investments, NOT costs. Any
investment is intended to return MORE than was put into it. All of these
educational opportunities are just that.  Of course you would understand
that there is a limited budget for this sort of investment as well.
Other than those paid to speak I suspect there is nobody that attends
all of these things every year or even in a given year.  Investment
spread too thin does no good either, however NO investment guarantees no
growth.

Clearly there are those who attend events such as these who gain nothing
from them. These folks can usually be found at the local attractions
rather than in sessions. COMMON for instance during any given hour
routinely counts only about 1/2 the paid butts actually in seats. Even
counting expo, lunch, and volunteer positions some folks just aren't
there for education, they're there for vacation. Discounting the
'vacationers' however I believe you and your management would be amazed
at the positive feedback that nearly every other attendee would give
from any of these events.

I have been very successful in getting my customers to send their folks
to COMMON. Clearly I do not take up the cause if the technical staff is
not interested and of course I don't always succeed. However In the
cases where I don't succeed the answer is nearly always the one that
gets Admiral Grace Hopper out of her grave to smack them on the head:
"We have never sent people to educational events we've always been this
way."

 - Larry

DeLong, Eric wrote:


Not to beat this dead horse again, but I've never been in a position where

I
could attend COMMON. I know I could use my personal vacation to attend one 
myself, but I'm not a member of COMMON, nor am I actively involved with

LUG,
so the cost could be considerable. I would certainly like to see what it's 
all about, but I can't easily justify the personal expenses involved.

I suppose I fit in the "young" category (at age 37), but with 20 years in
midrange, my memory tells me that 1) I've never worked in a shop that was
affiliated with COMMON, 2) I've never worked in a shop that supported the
notion of sending anyone to COMMON, 3) most shops refuse to allow their
programmers to get involved in LUG, 4) only one shop has paid for
specialized education.  Its a lousy track record, and in my opinion, it's
only getting worse.  Bummer...

In lieu of COMMON, I've come to see these mailing lists as my educational
salvation.




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