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Yeah...I'm sure the hardware will be a lot cheaper for equivalent power. That software subscription can get you though. I don't do as much development as I used to do - mainly consulting anymore - so I don't think I'll get another system. Had an AS/400 or iSeries in my house for about 15 years or so. On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 15:14:39 -0500, rob@xxxxxxxxx said: > My math was really off, eh? Sorry. I would think that the i5's would be > about half that for equal or better power though. > > Rob Berendt > -- > Group Dekko Services, LLC > Dept 01.073 > PO Box 2000 > Dock 108 > 6928N 400E > Kendallville, IN 46755 > http://www.dekko.com > > > > > > michaelr_41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx > 06/09/2004 03:04 PM > Please respond to > Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To > "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > cc > > Fax to > > Subject > RE: Model 170 for Personal Development > > > > > > > No, that would be a $35,000 machine. And it was about $400/month with the > software subscription. Then IBM went up to 1.5% of list for a lease. > > On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 14:58:34 -0500, rob@xxxxxxxxx said: > > That seems a little high. But you were the one who actually paid the > > bill. I just thought that 'qualified' developers could lease a system > > for > > like 1% of list. So that would be a $350,000 machine. I would think > the > > low end i5's would be a lot less. > > > > Rob Berendt > > -- > > Group Dekko Services, LLC > > Dept 01.073 > > PO Box 2000 > > Dock 108 > > 6928N 400E > > Kendallville, IN 46755 > > http://www.dekko.com > > > > > > > > > > > > michaelr_41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > 06/09/2004 02:41 PM > > Please respond to > > Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > To > > "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > cc > > > > Fax to > > > > Subject > > RE: Model 170 for Personal Development > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmmm...I dropped out of the IBM Developer lease cause of the cost of > > leasing an iSeries. It was about $350/month, and a lot more expensive > for > > the Software Subscription Screw. > > > > On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 14:37:21 -0500, rob@xxxxxxxxx said: > > > My cable bill is $62.60/month. That's for cable TV, internet, etc. > And > > > > > my wife uses the internet more than I do. > > > My point is this, do you spend more on your TV viewing than on > > furthering > > > your career? > > > Here's a radical idea. Since most people plan on paying the cable or > > > satellite pig for all time, why not lease an i5 for home use? Perhaps > > > you > > > can get it for about the same amount as your cable bill. And the > beauty > > > > > of leasing is that when the new hardware comes out it's a simple > matter > > > of > > > adjusting your lease versus the pain of a buy decision. And the way > > > computers are going, you might even find you're adjusting your lease > > > downwards for a better, faster machine. We've had that happen at > work. > > > > > > Hey, your lease payments might even be cheaper that what you pay your > > > credit card company for that ebay'ed iseries. Providing you make only > > > > your montly minimum to your credit card company, or some such thing. > > > > > > Rob Berendt > > > -- > > > Group Dekko Services, LLC > > > Dept 01.073 > > > PO Box 2000 > > > Dock 108 > > > 6928N 400E > > > Kendallville, IN 46755 > > > http://www.dekko.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winchester Terry <terry.winchester@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > 06/09/2004 01:30 PM > > > Please respond to > > > Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > > To > > > "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > cc > > > > > > Fax to > > > > > > Subject > > > RE: Model 170 for Personal Development > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark, > > > > > > Do you read minds ... LOL. Yes, besides being able to > > > do personal development at home I would also like to > > > learn more "system" stuff like installs, IPLing, etc. > > > > > > There are some smaller shops in the area that use > > > one-man "contractors" and if things get rough where > > > I'm currently working it would be nice to have a > > > broader background. > > > > > > And last but not least - I love this box and just GOT > > > to have one! As with anything, it tends to boil down > > > to dollars and cents ;-) > > > > > > Terry > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Mark S. Waterbury [mailto:mark.s.waterbury@xxxxxxx] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 1:12 PM > > > > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion > > > > Subject: Re: Model 170 for Personal Development > > > > > > > > Hi, Terry: > > > > > > > > You may want to check out www.timeshare400.com and/or > > > > www.netshare400.com -- they both offer "time-sharing" where > > > > you can simply telnet into an AS/400 and you get your own > > > > userID and disk space, etc., and it is only about $10 per > > > > month, and they have ALL the software development tools, > > > > etc., all properly licensed, etc. and they maintain it all > > > > for you (keeping up with PTFs etc.) > > > > > > > > Unless of course you want to get a machine because you want > > > > to learn how to IPL, how to do back-ups, how to load the OS > > > > and other software, etc. ;-) > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Mark S. Waterbury > > > -- > > > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > > > > list > > > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > > > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > > > list > > > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > > > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > > > -- > > > > michaelr_41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > -- > > http://www.fastmail.fm - Consolidate POP email and Hotmail in one place > > -- > > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > > list > > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > > > > -- > > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > > list > > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > -- > > michaelr_41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - I mean, what is it about a decent email service? > -- > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > -- > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > -- michaelr_41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail
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