RE: Model 170 for Personal Development -- MIDRANGE-L

My math was really off, eh?  Sorry.  I would think that the i5's would be 
about half that for equal or better power though.

Rob Berendt
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Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





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No, that would be a $35,000 machine. And it was about $400/month with the
software subscription. Then IBM went up to 1.5% of list for a lease.

On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 14:58:34 -0500, rob@xxxxxxxxx said:
> That seems a little high.  But you were the one who actually paid the 
> bill.  I just thought that 'qualified' developers could lease a system
> for 
> like 1% of list.  So that would be a $350,000 machine.  I would think 
the 
> low end i5's would be a lot less.
> 
> Rob Berendt
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> PO Box 2000
> Dock 108
> 6928N 400E
> Kendallville, IN 46755
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> hmmm...I dropped out of the IBM Developer lease cause of the cost of
> leasing an iSeries. It was about $350/month, and a lot more expensive 
for
> the Software Subscription Screw.
> 
> On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 14:37:21 -0500, rob@xxxxxxxxx said:
> > My cable bill is $62.60/month.  That's for cable TV, internet, etc. 
And 
> 
> > my wife uses the internet more than I do.
> > My point is this, do you spend more on your TV viewing than on 
> furthering 
> > your career?
> > Here's a radical idea.  Since most people plan on paying the cable or 
> > satellite pig for all time, why not lease an i5 for home use?  Perhaps
> > you 
> > can get it for about the same amount as your cable bill.  And the 
beauty 
> 
> > of leasing is that when the new hardware comes out it's a simple 
matter
> > of 
> > adjusting your lease versus the pain of a buy decision.  And the way 
> > computers are going, you might even find you're adjusting your lease 
> > downwards for a better, faster machine.  We've had that happen at 
work.
> > 
> > Hey, your lease payments might even be cheaper that what you pay your 
> > credit card company for that ebay'ed iseries.  Providing you make only 

> > your montly minimum to your credit card company, or some such thing.
> > 
> > Rob Berendt
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> > http://www.dekko.com
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> > Mark,
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> > Do you read minds ... LOL.  Yes, besides being able to
> > do personal development at home I would also like to
> > learn more "system" stuff like installs, IPLing, etc.
> > 
> > There are some smaller shops in the area that use
> > one-man "contractors" and if things get rough where
> > I'm currently working it would be nice to have a 
> > broader background. 
> > 
> > And last but not least - I love this box and just GOT
> > to have one!  As with anything, it tends to boil down
> > to dollars and cents ;-)
> > 
> > Terry
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mark S. Waterbury [mailto:mark.s.waterbury@xxxxxxx] 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 1:12 PM
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> > > Hi, Terry:
> > > 
> > > You may want to check out www.timeshare400.com and/or 
> > > www.netshare400.com -- they both offer "time-sharing" where 
> > > you can simply telnet into an AS/400 and you get your own 
> > > userID and disk space, etc., and it is only about $10 per 
> > > month, and they have ALL the software development tools, 
> > > etc., all properly licensed, etc. and they maintain it all 
> > > for you (keeping up with PTFs etc.)
> > > 
> > > Unless of course you want to get a machine because you want 
> > > to learn how to IPL, how to do back-ups, how to load the OS 
> > > and other software, etc. ;-)
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Mark S. Waterbury
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